Why i left the MA....

[grumpy37]

I left the MA in hopes of getting away from exactly what just happened in the AVA.  Bish had 5-1 advantage over nits, i was a nit at the time.  Came up on 2 bish one low one high.  One of them seemed to break off and I engaged the remaining player.  Worked a decent turn fight for a minute or so, had the bad guys 6 and was firing when i was picked by the other player who shall remain un-named.  Not anywhere near a base, not even trying to capture a base.  This is the exact reason why im pretty much over this game as a whole.  I havnt been able to play much this week due to work and was looking forward to a few hours of fun, guess ill go find something else to do.

[fudgums]

maybe it is time you left this game, you complain about every single thing that goes bad with this game. You just don't realize that there is 1 million other things that make this game great.

Don't let the door hit you on your butt as you walk out.

[waystin2]

Hello Grumpy.

Let me start with saying I intend no insult and completely understand your point of view.  I have a squaddie whose feelings about dogfights and the way he prefers them to occur in the MA's & the AVA.  It seems you are the same in your feelings.  I am completely opposite to this.  If I am hunting with a wingman, and we stumble across 1,2,3 or more cons.  We will fight as a winged pair.  Neither one of us would stay out of the fight, instead we would work together to put the con down.  This sounds like what happened to you.  In the AVA I expect to be engaged by all cons in the area.  Too think anything will occur differently than this sets you up for a no-fun situation.  Again, no insult intended.  Just trying to understand the thinking here.

 

Way

[captain1ma]

grumpy, contact me when you get a chance. if you still want, you're in!

as for your comments, this is why i dont like flying without squaddies. if you have one guy that will help you great. but if you're flying alone alot, getting drilled when you're not looking becomes a fact of life. having someone around to cover you or atleast try, makes it that much more fun. it can be very frustrating and i know the feeling. some of our guys arent around as much as they used to be. when i fly alone, i get clobbers numerous times. again very frustrating.

best thing to do is pull yourself up, say you'll get him someday and start over. it works for me, but everyone is different. i hope this helps!   

[TequilaChaser]

one would expect a little bit of courtesy in the AvsA at certain "low occupied" arena times.......

if only a handful are up for either side say 5 vs 2 or 6 vs2. one would be much more appreciative, unless both sides have agreed to be free for all....

you can not build the numbers you want if a ones side with say 4 squaddies and 2 other no squaddies always jump the lower side of say 2 squaddies or just 2 separate players....

even it out..... be civilized.......

when the time calls for more type of furball / mass # combat..... then everyone should worry about having to fight more than one at a time....

this is the MAIN ITEM of concern the AvsA needs to overcome to be successful...... regardless if it is an icons or a no icons arena.....

this is the situation that drives the most away....... the gang up on the lower # mentality regardless if it is 5 to 1 3 to 1 6 to 2 or 5 to 2. etc.... and to think. sometimes they even vulch the low # side or do not even appreciate a good fight and let the others get some air under them or energy to maneuver....

Grumpy.... going away will not help the problem.. it just prolongs it..... ( yes I left for a long time and actually hurt this arena by doing so, instead of being there flying in it and being vocal about how others play in a less than stellar way )

there is a time for every type of game play.... some just play one way all the time... and that is always over # the other side regardless if it is 3, 4, 5 ,6 to 1.. ( seriously have seen it 7 to 8 vs 1 or 2 in this arena in past times )

its called game etiquette ( Good & Bad )....... it is up to the older experienced players to inform & guide the newer players with good game etiquette....

maybe this will make sense to some of the players

[grumpy37]

maybe it is time you left this game, you complain about every single thing that goes bad with this game. You just don't realize that there is 1 million other things that make this game great.

Don't let the door hit you on your butt as you walk out.

You are actually very wrong in your statement.  First off I dont complain about everything that goes bad with this game by any means or i would be typing out posts 24/7.  Second of all all the good parts about the game are the only reason i am still here after almost 10 years.  I have the right just like anyone else on the boards to state my mind and point of view at any given time, just as you have the write to respond at any given time with your point of view.  At least by your comment i know that some people are actually reading what i write, now you just need to take the time to understand it before firing up your flame thrower.

one would expect a little bit of courtesy in the AvsA at certain "low occupied" arena times.......

if only a handful are up for either side say 5 vs 2 or 6 vs2. one would be much more appreciative, unless both sides have agreed to be free for all....

you can not build the numbers you want if a ones side with say 4 squaddies and 2 other no squaddies always jump the lower side of say 2 squaddies or just 2 separate players....

even it out..... be civilized.......

when the time calls for more type of furball / mass # combat..... then everyone should worry about having to fight more than one at a time....

this is the MAIN ITEM of concern the AvsA needs to overcome to be successful...... regardless if it is an icons or a no icons arena.....

this is the situation that drives the most away....... the gang up on the lower # mentality regardless if it is 5 to 1 3 to 1 6 to 2 or 5 to 2. etc.... and to think. sometimes they even vulch the low # side or do not even appreciate a good fight and let the others get some air under them or energy to maneuver....

Grumpy.... going away will not help the problem.. it just prolongs it..... ( yes I left for a long time and actually hurt this arena by doing so, instead of being there flying in it and being vocal about how others play in a less than stellar way )

there is a time for every type of game play.... some just play one way all the time... and that is always over # the other side regardless if it is 3, 4, 5 ,6 to 1.. ( seriously have seen it 7 to 8 vs 1 or 2 in this arena in past times )

its called game etiquette ( Good & Bad )....... it is up to the older experienced players to inform & guide the newer players with good game etiquette....

maybe this will make sense to some of the players

Only reason i said anything is because of the area numbers at the time.  If someone else was on my side I may have had the option to fly with someone and at that point in time it would have been a 2v2 and it would have been on.  I expect to get ganged or picked in a 2v1, sadly getting the kill for most players has taken over the "fun" of 1v1 combat... IMHO   But then again maybe the 2v1 pickers can only get kills this way. 


I take no insult with what anyone says on here, it is a forum to vent your feelings. 

[fudgums]

complain

I have known you to come on here and complain and complain, then when its your fault, you blame others.

[grumpy37]

I have known you to come on here and complain and complain, then when its your fault, you blame others.

What exactly are  you refering to as my fault?

[fudgums]

I left the MA in hopes of getting away from exactly what just happened in the AVA.  Bish had 5-1 advantage over nits, i was a nit at the time.  Came up on 2 bish one low one high.  One of them seemed to break off and I engaged the remaining player.  Worked a decent turn fight for a minute or so, had the bad guys 6 and was firing when i was picked by the other player who shall remain un-named.  Not anywhere near a base, not even trying to capture a base.  This is the exact reason why im pretty much over this game as a whole.  I havnt been able to play much this week due to work and was looking forward to a few hours of fun, guess ill go find something else to do.

[Shifty]

Hang in there Grumpy. Just like everything else in life in this game you have good days and bad days. You run into people that enhance your day or ruin it.
That stuff is everywhere you go. Brush it off saddle up and give it another try. The bad experiance makes the next good experiance even better.

<S>

[grumpy37]

ahhh  so your saying that getting picked by another player while engaged in what i thought was a 1v1 is my fault.  Considering that i assumed i was in a 1v1 and that considering the arena numbers at the time honestly thought the player that picked me would just allow us to have our fight then yeah i made a mistake.  But really the only mistake was assuming the AvA was different then other arenas.  I should have known that its the same mentality for the most part as all the other arenas.  There are some decent respectful players in the arena that enjoy playing for the same reasons i do and i will just look for those from now on and move along if none of them are playing.  

[fudgums]

ahhh  so your saying that getting picked by another player while engaged in what i thought was a 1v1 is my fault.  Considering that i assumed i was in a 1v1 and that considering the arena numbers at the time honestly thought the player that picked me would just allow us to have our fight then yeah i made a mistake.  But really the only mistake was assuming the AvA was different then other arenas.  I should have known that its the same mentality for the most part as all the other arenas.  There are some decent respectful players in the arena that enjoy playing for the same reasons i do and i will just look for those from now on and move along if none of them are playing.  

I don't see how its not respectable, you got onto his six, and his wingman cleared his six.

sounds like good wingman tactics.

[grumpy37]

I don't see how its not respectable, you got onto his six, and his wingman cleared his six.

sounds like good wingman tactics.

Your right and you also either didnt read my entire post or just dont comprehend what i said.  Either way doesnt matter. 

[fudgums]

Your right and you also either didnt read my entire post or just dont comprehend what i said.  Either way doesnt matter. 

I give 

[shiv]

I left the MA in hopes of getting away from exactly what just happened in the AVA.  Bish had 5-1 advantage over nits, i was a nit at the time.  Came up on 2 bish one low one high.  One of them seemed to break off and I engaged the remaining player.  Worked a decent turn fight for a minute or so, had the bad guys 6 and was firing when i was picked by the other player who shall remain un-named.  Not anywhere near a base, not even trying to capture a base.  This is the exact reason why im pretty much over this game as a whole.  I havnt been able to play much this week due to work and was looking forward to a few hours of fun, guess ill go find something else to do.

I'd be expecting the other guy to stay out also.  You gotta keep an eye on him though.  Could be new and kill hungry.  Or old and kill hungry I guess.  Point is a lot of guys - like Jaeger the other night when I was fighting Oldman -will stay out, but some won't.  You just ran into the wrong guy.