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Re: Plane vs Plane Thread
« Reply #45 on: September 18, 2010, 12:28:11 PM »
D3A1 vs Me262.
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Re: Plane vs Plane Thread
« Reply #46 on: September 18, 2010, 04:51:58 PM »
A20G vs Boston III  :aok
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Re: Plane vs Plane Thread
« Reply #47 on: September 18, 2010, 05:49:37 PM »
D3A1 vs Me262.

D3A1 keeps turning low on the deck to either get a lucky ping on the 262 on the overshoot or get him to auger, the ME262 keeps BnZ untill he can calculate the angle for the tight turning D3A1, without loosing to much speed.



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Re: Plane vs Plane Thread
« Reply #48 on: September 18, 2010, 06:49:28 PM »
D3A1 vs JU87

Dude this is like comparing a rental toyota corolla to a well equipped volkswagen golf :D
Just like the VW golf, i think ju87 has solid chassis and can soak up peashooter hits better than d3a :aok


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Re: Plane vs Plane Thread
« Reply #49 on: September 19, 2010, 03:31:52 AM »
Dude this is like comparing a rental toyota corolla to a well equipped volkswagen golf :D
Just like the VW golf, i think ju87 has solid chassis and can soak up peashooter hits better than d3a :aok


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Re: Plane vs Plane Thread
« Reply #50 on: September 19, 2010, 04:36:37 AM »
The Val would dominate the Ju87.

how?

handicap by not using rear guns when in defensive mode?

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Re: Plane vs Plane Thread
« Reply #51 on: September 19, 2010, 05:24:54 AM »
how?

handicap by not using rear guns when in defensive mode?


You gota go to the WW1 planeset to find a bird that you can whip around like a D3a.

I take it you have never flown a Val against a Zeke and dominated it?
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Re: Plane vs Plane Thread
« Reply #52 on: September 19, 2010, 10:20:10 AM »
This matchup still pending. :)



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Re: Plane vs Plane Thread
« Reply #53 on: September 19, 2010, 02:12:20 PM »
More seriously than my first one: Mosquito Mk VI vs Bf110G-2.
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Re: Plane vs Plane Thread
« Reply #54 on: September 19, 2010, 09:01:52 PM »
This matchup still pending. :)

I assume you mean the spit16 and G14.
The spit needs to fight downhill and use it's turning ability. The G14 needs to fight in the vertical and use it's speed to extend and keep separation while creating angles or a rope/stall on the spit. But as INK already pointed out, this all depends on the situation. Alt, player ability/knowledge, speed, weight, timing...etc.

In a co-alt duel, all the G14 has to do is climb after the merge and start the BnZ and catch the spit in the rope or in a turn with a deflection shot. The spit would have to hide it's E and surprize the G14 in the climb or sucker the G14 to engage in a turn fight.
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Re: Plane vs Plane Thread
« Reply #55 on: September 19, 2010, 11:22:21 PM »
I assume you mean the spit16 and G14.
The spit needs to fight downhill and use it's turning ability. The G14 needs to fight in the vertical and use it's speed to extend and keep separation while creating angles or a rope/stall on the spit. But as INK already pointed out, this all depends on the situation. Alt, player ability/knowledge, speed, weight, timing...etc.

In a co-alt duel, all the G14 has to do is climb after the merge and start the BnZ and catch the spit in the rope or in a turn with a deflection shot. The spit would have to hide it's E and surprize the G14 in the climb or sucker the G14 to engage in a turn fight.
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I would put my money on the spit in that match up, pilots being equal.

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Re: Plane vs Plane Thread
« Reply #56 on: September 20, 2010, 01:44:28 AM »
me too, with some patience the 16 pilot can drag the G14 down slowly - the lower they go, the more the 16 can force a turn fight.  By the same token, the G14 pilot has to keep separation and altitude in order to make sure the 16 starts its turn early.  Once the spitfire starts turning, then the G14 can really use the vert.

How about Spit 9 vs. 190 A5.

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Re: Plane vs Plane Thread
« Reply #57 on: September 20, 2010, 02:28:31 AM »

How about Spit 9 vs. 190 A5.

Fw 190: zoom & BOOM & zoom?


Also, doesn't our 190a5 climb a bit too fast?
according to a website called wwiiaircraftpeformance.org i saw that the real fw190a5s was just as fast and had roughly the same climb rate as the fw190a8

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Re: Plane vs Plane Thread
« Reply #58 on: September 20, 2010, 09:34:08 PM »
me too, with some patience the 16 pilot can drag the G14 down slowly - the lower they go, the more the 16 can force a turn fight.  By the same token, the G14 pilot has to keep separation and altitude in order to make sure the 16 starts its turn early.  Once the spitfire starts turning, then the G14 can really use the vert.

How about Spit 9 vs. 190 A5.

The Spit 9  is going to have some trouble if the fight is below 5k since it can't match the A5's climb.  Below 5k the Spit has to rely on turning capability and get a shot on the A5 as it zips past.  Above 5k the Spit can equalize fairly easily and  could also catch the A5 as it's climbing out.

Hmm...P47 M vs FW Dora


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Re: Plane vs Plane Thread
« Reply #59 on: September 20, 2010, 11:12:33 PM »
Everyone goes its own way  :bolt:

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