Plane vs Plane Thread

[boomerlu]

Hmm...P47 M vs FW Dora

Has to force the Dora to turn. After that, avoid the rope and you're good.

[prono]

The Spit 9  is going to have some trouble if the fight is below 5k since it can't match the A5's climb.  Below 5k the Spit has to rely on turning capability and get a shot on the A5 as it zips past.

I think this might be wrong. There is no way Spit 9 can lose this fight any alt and co E.

[mtnman]

I think this might be wrong. There is no way Spit 9 can lose this fight any alt and co E.

But, of course, the pilot could...

The planes in AH really don't win or lose fights, the pilots do.  The "worst" plane can beat the "best" plane.  I've witnessed it.  I've even seen pilots in drastically inferior planes come out on top following a several-on-one scenario.

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But, of course, the pilot could...

The planes in AH really don't win or lose fights, the pilots do.  The "worst" plane can beat the "best" plane.  I've witnessed it.  I've even seen pilots in drastically inferior planes come out on top following a several-on-one scenario.

this is my point exactly, I out turned a zero on the deck in a 152 these type of discussions give off the wrong impression to noobs, they read something that says "this is how you kill" and think that is the only way to do it.

[prono]

But, of course, the pilot could...
The planes in AH really don't win or lose fights, the pilots do.  The "worst" plane can beat the "best" plane.  I've witnessed it.  I've even seen pilots in drastically inferior planes come out on top following a several-on-one scenario.

Of course this is true and we know that. 

Ki-84(mg only) vs 109K and 190D how to win this
2 min show up + 10 min fight http://www.mediafire.com/?dyisct9vy99gk8r

[IrishOne]

I think this might be wrong. There is no way Spit 9 can lose this fight any alt and co E.

i do it all the time     

what about P51D vs Fw190D9?   thats a sweet matchup

[uptown]

oooo now that one I may know something about. The Dora can outrun, outroll and outclimb the 51, so the ponys bread and butter is in the turn fight and flaps. Stay away from the headon passes as much as possible keeping the 190 close (if he allows you) , while creating angles so that he'll want to start turning. If he won't go for the turn fight pretend he has you beat and start running away. He'll think "hahaha, I got him now..I'm faster" all ponys do is run away right? Get the fight fast, when he gets within 600 or so dump a notch of flaps and pull hard to on side while watching him, when he follows start the scissors and wait for him to fly in front of your guns.
The Doras best chance at a kill is to just BnZ the pony til he's out of E or bait him into a rope. This fight is the 190s to lose though, as I think it's a better plane if used to it's strenghts. It's when he starts letting the 51 dictate the fight is when he gets into trouble.


how about a 109K4 vs C205  

[TonyJoey]

  You mean in a strictly turn-fight?  If the 109 maintains an E advantage and never commits to blowing it on tight turns, he'll dance circles around the spit.

No. While the 109 might have a bigger engine, the Spit holds its E much better. If anyone will be flying circles around others, it would be the spit around the 109.

[grizz441]

No. While the 109 might have a bigger engine, the Spit holds its E much better. If anyone will be flying circles around others, it would be the spit around the 109.

This is correct. 

Of course, all the 109 needs is one snapshot, which is usually a reasonable scenario, even against a very good spit pilot.

[Scotch]

The spit usually holds his e better, all the way into terrafirma. Splat.

[Muzzy]

109k4 vs C.205 was the next matchup.

[Owlblink]

I got one!

F4U-A against an LA-7, with the LA having either an alt or E advantage. I ran into this scenario in the DA

[JunkyII]

C205 has to work for a win against the K4.......K4 Dominates that fight honestly.


LA7 vs  Spit16

[Imowface]

Keep the La fast try to make the spit bleed E in lag turns then rope him, or if your slower in the La cause an overshoot by the spit

[JunkyII]

Keep the La fast try to make the spit bleed E in lag turns then rope him, or if your slower in the La cause an overshoot by the spit

See I think the LA could handle the Spit even in a slow fight just because of its accel and vertical. It is like a cross breed between a F6F and a 109 IMO.