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Offline Greebo

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Re: First B-29 Skins post.
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2010, 07:11:14 AM »
I'd say its going to be hard to get any detail on a plane that size with only a single 1024 by 1024 tile to work on. A one dot rivet or panel line will look huge relative to the plane. Maybe HTC ought to  stretch to two exterior tiles for this plane.

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Re: First B-29 Skins post.
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2010, 09:07:30 AM »
Well they did just update the engine to handle 2048 textures too.... so maybe they're going to designate the 29's exterior as a 2048 texture?
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Re: First B-29 Skins post.
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2010, 10:36:12 AM »
I think a 2048 tile might be going a bit far, that's four times the memory requirement of a single 1024. Your FE only sees your own interior cockpit skin, not any other player's. So that's a finite amount of extra memory needed for 2048 res. However your FE see the external art of any other nearby plane. Can you imagine what a large squadron flying threes of B-29s in close formation (possibly with different skins) would do to framerates if you had 2048 external art?

Two 1024 tiles ought to give a slightly better surface resolution on a B-29 than say the B-24 would have with one tile.
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Re: First B-29 Skins post.
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2010, 04:31:29 PM »
I think a 2048 tile might be going a bit far, that's four times the memory requirement of a single 1024. Your FE only sees your own interior cockpit skin, not any other player's. So that's a finite amount of extra memory needed for 2048 res. However your FE see the external art of any other nearby plane. Can you imagine what a large squadron flying threes of B-29s in close formation (possibly with different skins) would do to framerates if you had 2048 external art?

Two 1024 tiles ought to give a slightly better surface resolution on a B-29 than say the B-24 would have with one tile.

You make a good point there... I'd have to say 2 1024s definitely makes more sense.
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Re: First B-29 Skins post.
« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2010, 08:33:45 PM »
You got his post backwards.  He is Russian and is saying Russia did a damn good job copying the B-29.
:( :uhoh :bolt: my bad. i always thought the Tu-4 came before the B-29...? :headscratch:

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Re: First B-29 Skins post.
« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2010, 08:36:59 PM »
lol yeah I live in canada but was born in russia, so rather then asking Kaz or bruv to make me a russian flag, I just picked the flag of where I live  :)
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Re: First B-29 Skins post.
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2010, 05:18:30 PM »
Well they did just update the engine to handle 2048 textures too.... so maybe they're going to designate the 29's exterior as a 2048 texture?


I know Greebo already answered this, but as a follow-up, I believe they said only the cockpit files were being upgraded to 2048, and that they had no plans to increase the external skin files. I would agree that 2 bitmaps, each at 1024 would be the better solution as compared to 2048. That's if the textures cannot be satisfactorily applied to 1 bitmap. I think the B-17 is really cramped but it's possible. Who knows how clever HTC will get?

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Re: First B-29 Skins post.
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2010, 11:59:00 PM »
There is a lot of great pictures of this bomb group for you skinners to pick over.

http://www.philcrowther.com/6thBG/

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Re: First B-29 Skins post.
« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2010, 01:27:27 PM »
Grrrr so many rivets.   :( Evil rivets.
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Re: First B-29 Skins post.
« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2010, 01:34:42 PM »
Grrrr so many rivets.   :( Evil rivets.


What rivets?

I see none there.

I see none here:



But, let's take a closer look:




While you can see color variations in panels, you can see panel lines (in some cases) you cannot see rivets.

Rivets are over-represented in Aces High skins. I've done it myself. In the absence of rivet dots on a skin, you have many other options for how you wish to break up the colors, or keep it "interesting"...

B-29s were flush riveted, were painted silver most times, and even on the ones that looked like the paint was stripped down to BMF, you still can't see rivets enless you stick your face 2 inches from the plane.


No need to worry about rivets. Forget them. Instead, worry about making the metal look nice. Or the silver paint.

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Re: First B-29 Skins post.
« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2010, 01:49:32 PM »
You make a very valid point.  Should be fun to do once we get a default skin.  I often enjoy the research as much as I enjoy making the skin.
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Re: First B-29 Skins post.
« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2010, 03:40:53 PM »
I thought the majority of all B-29s that saw combat were stripped of paint (bare metal)?

Where are all these OD ones serving? Are they being used as transports (see previous posts) or are they doing something other than bombing Japan?


Just curious.


EDIT: Correction, not BMF, but painted silver. Still, they looked metallic, is what I meant. Pic of those B-29s in formation looks like it's flying over farmland in America's Heartland.


The first X number of B-29s built, (don't remember, info at home), left the factory painted OD/Gray.

The operated out of India, flying over the Himalayas, bombing SE Asia, China, and Japan itself. 


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Re: First B-29 Skins post.
« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2010, 03:42:02 PM »

The first X number of B-29s built, (don't remember, info at home), left the factory painted OD/Gray.

The operated out of India, flying over the Himalayas, bombing SE Asia, China, and Japan itself. 


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Re: First B-29 Skins post.
« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2010, 03:58:53 PM »
Some profiles.
 I think some of the 444TH Bomb Group aircraft will be popular with the FU-KEMAL on the side. :rock









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Re: First B-29 Skins post.
« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2010, 04:09:37 PM »