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Re: PCI SSD vs SATA 3
« Reply #75 on: January 12, 2011, 11:37:13 AM »
And this right here was the whole purpose of the thread and how I interpreted it:

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This post as I have said all along was my findings of two technologies, both available to the consumers.  Both being fairly new to the market but having a great difference in performance.

See? See how misleading the title was. Dragon you got mislead. The comparison was about a raided multichannel ssd versus a regular hdd. You think a hdd is new tech? :)
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Re: PCI SSD vs SATA 3
« Reply #76 on: January 12, 2011, 12:14:27 PM »
OMG.. dude.. take a valium. Or 10.

You're the ONLY one crusading about a very tiny nit-pick (which you started in the first place). At this point it's looking more like personal vendetta than any interest in debate/discussion.

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Re: PCI SSD vs SATA 3
« Reply #77 on: January 12, 2011, 12:37:19 PM »
See? See how misleading the title was. Dragon you got mislead. The comparison was about a raided multichannel ssd versus a regular hdd. You think a hdd is new tech? :)

The comparison was ALSO between components that connects via a pci slot vs a sata header, I got ALL that. 


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Offline MrRiplEy[H]

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Re: PCI SSD vs SATA 3
« Reply #78 on: January 12, 2011, 12:48:13 PM »
The comparison was ALSO between components that connects via a pci slot vs a sata header, I got ALL that. 

In fact it had nothing to do with them, which is where you were mislead. The HDD is in no way representative of SATA3's capabilities.

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Ya know, I was going to try to walk away, but just reading some of his posts is causing me to lose IQ points.

I would argue you're doing so if you ignore them.
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Re: PCI SSD vs SATA 3
« Reply #79 on: January 12, 2011, 12:51:58 PM »
OMG.. dude.. take a valium. Or 10.

You're the ONLY one crusading about a very tiny nit-pick (which you started in the first place). At this point it's looking more like personal vendetta than any interest in debate/discussion.

Proving someones false claims wrong with undisputable test references and technical data is a personal vendetta and nit-picking? :)
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Re: PCI SSD vs SATA 3
« Reply #80 on: January 12, 2011, 01:03:23 PM »
This thread has gone sideways.

I will always give someone the benefit of the doubt, as it pertains to the various symantics of the technical jargon engineers toss about like candy.

I just do not see any benefit to the continued trading blows about it all.

I get what you are saying (I actually knew it from the very first post) Ripley, but you are starting to seem obsessive about it.  TD, Ripley has a point and you are starting to sound very defensive as well.  A more correct title would have been PCI-E versus SATA3, or SDD versus HDD.

I knew what you were getting at.  I think most people do know.  Ripley even knows.  I just did not think it worth pointing out.  I really do not think it worth a brow beating.  Both of you have made it difficult to have a civil or constructive discussion about this topic.

I'd really like to see both of you just put it aside and figure out how to get to a mutually acceptable place.
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Re: PCI SSD vs SATA 3
« Reply #81 on: January 12, 2011, 03:14:55 PM »
See? See how misleading the title was. Dragon you got mislead. The comparison was about a raided multichannel ssd versus a regular hdd. You think a hdd is new tech? :)
So with your statement saying I mislead then your also saying that SATA3 is not new technology.  Heck your own post from OCC stated NEW 6Gb/s.

My main question is this... If I want to compare APPLES to GRAPES who are you to tell me I should not be doing that?  If you go back and read all of your posts you contradict yourself several times.  One being the SATA 2 and SATA 3, you state
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First of all: Nobody is claiming SATA interface doesn't need developing OR that SATA3 is not faster than SATA2
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No where in my original post did I mention bandwidth nor the amount available, the amount used by any technology period.  You said this is not a fair comparison, why, because you don't think its fair?  The comparison is one technology against another STOCK from the factory plugged into the MB. The original post is AGAIN showing two "NEW" technologies (SATA3 and PCIe SSD) again as stated time and again nothing more.  No where did I say that HHD is new technology, which you are making claims of.  READ the post not into it.  When you want to build a system and I build a system using the same parts other then me using SATA3 and you SATA2 on either interface SATA2 or SATA3, I am sure in REAL WORLD applications my system will out perform it hands down. 

As for you saying the NOOB YouTube post... please explain how a video is a twisted.  Its right in front of your face.  Also please explain your earlier statement that BENCHMARK UTILITIES have nothing to do with real world applications when I posted from MAXIMUM PC showing you wrong (unless they are NOOBS too).  You just flat out refuse to admit you are wrong.  As Skuzzy stated I may have mis-labled the title but the FIRST line shows PCIe vs SATA3.... where is the confusion, where is the misdirection?  No where do I state anything about SAME TECHNOLOGY (ie 200GB vs 200GB) it is what it is PCIe vs SATA3.

SKUZZY I would have dropped this and I did until MrRiply stated that I have a commercial interest in my posts, In addition in another thread I pointed out to a person making a system configuration I informed the poster that a SATA3 drive would be a better option since the MB is SATA3 compatible, MrRiply then went off telling the poster as well as me that I have no clue, then in this thread again he starts mentioning bandwidth, none of the technology uses the available bandwidth but it is still faster then the technology it has replaced.  He states "First of all: Nobody is claiming SATA interface doesn't need developing OR that SATA3 is not faster than SATA2. I have never said anything such." but then he goes and says there is no difference in speed, which is it,  He states "He could just have corrected his title or admit the bad comparison" Please explain why this is a bad comparison, again this is two new technologies to hit the consumer market SATA3 and PCIe SSD that's boot-able.  He also states "I have no problem with TD selling his stuff to the community. But when I see a post with misleading or as it seems, intentionally misleading information"  first off who is he to to say if I can or can not sell, where have I mislead anyone?

I formally give up and will not be found posting on these boards period.  Not worth my time nor effort.

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Re: PCI SSD vs SATA 3
« Reply #82 on: January 12, 2011, 04:35:41 PM »
This thread has gone sideways.

I will always give someone the benefit of the doubt, as it pertains to the various symantics of the technical jargon engineers toss about like candy.

I just do not see any benefit to the continued trading blows about it all.

I get what you are saying (I actually knew it from the very first post) Ripley, but you are starting to seem obsessive about it.  TD, Ripley has a point and you are starting to sound very defensive as well.  A more correct title would have been PCI-E versus SATA3, or SDD versus HDD.

I knew what you were getting at.  I think most people do know.  Ripley even knows.  I just did not think it worth pointing out.  I really do not think it worth a brow beating.  Both of you have made it difficult to have a civil or constructive discussion about this topic.

I'd really like to see both of you just put it aside and figure out how to get to a mutually acceptable place.

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Re: PCI SSD vs SATA 3
« Reply #83 on: January 12, 2011, 04:47:48 PM »
I've never seen somebody so desperate to prove a worthless as you ripley.

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