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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #300 on: March 14, 2011, 08:17:48 PM »
Japan is now 13 feet closer to the U.S., and we lost 1.3 microseconds because the axis of the Earth shifted.


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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #301 on: March 14, 2011, 08:43:34 PM »
Japan is now 13 feet closer to the U.S., and we lost 1.3 microseconds because the axis of the Earth shifted.
Where did you hear 13ft, I've heard it was 8ft?
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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #302 on: March 14, 2011, 08:48:36 PM »
Where did you hear 13ft, I've heard it was 8ft?

Right here probably  http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110314/ts_yblog_thelookout/japans-earthquake-shifted-balance-of-the-planet

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The quake caused a rift 15 miles below the sea floor that stretched 186 miles long and 93 miles wide, according to the AP. The areas closest to the epicenter of the quake jumped a full 13 feet closer to the United States, geophysicist Ross Stein at the United States Geological Survey told The New York Times.


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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #303 on: March 14, 2011, 09:03:54 PM »
Here is a news conference I ran across in the nether web...Japanese/English translation follows after first long statement...be patient ..there is an English translator.

Archived from earlier today:

Speaker: Former Group Leader, Toshiba, In charge of design and testing of the containment vessel at the Fukushima site. 

FCC: LIVE CONFERENCE STREAM Japanese/English on current state of reactors: Fukushima #2 fuel rods are exposed - Emergency declared by TEPCO

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13320454

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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #304 on: March 14, 2011, 09:12:46 PM »
Right here probably  http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110314/ts_yblog_thelookout/japans-earthquake-shifted-balance-of-the-planet

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CNN just said that they are getting word that there may be a fire now in the reactor #4 containment building.
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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #305 on: March 14, 2011, 09:23:03 PM »
Watching NHK presser it's not clear from voice-over translation that the fire is or isn't radioactive.
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/
http://www.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/r0/low.asx  - lowest quality / least choppy stream
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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #306 on: March 14, 2011, 09:27:58 PM »
I can receive NHK World english television broadcast here on the big dish but the dedicated dish for that satellite is not ready for installation until this weekend  :(
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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #307 on: March 14, 2011, 09:29:35 PM »
Fire is not radioactive.

(added)They just corrected to say it is radioactive.

Damn.

up to 400 mSv levels in the facility.

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This not clear. It seems the smoke may just be carrying some of the radiation from the vicinity of the reactors and not radioactive in origin.
My translation of what they said is that. But, one of the Tokyo Power guys said that the fire may have been in the stored fuel area. The stored rods may be the source of the radiation.
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« Reply #308 on: March 14, 2011, 09:41:23 PM »
Sad this happened, so devastating, praying dearly for a quick recovery. Just think how much we take for granted.
just wondering If i shud be worried about radiaton since Alaska aint too far across the ocean.
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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #309 on: March 14, 2011, 09:43:42 PM »
i'm listening to the live broadcast, ill put off gaming at this moment just not in the mood,  Rolex you and your family stay safe  :pray    i can only imagine how your feeling and puts alot of what-if's into a persons head  
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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #310 on: March 14, 2011, 11:24:35 PM »
Well now there's enough radiation leaking that they've asked anyone within 30k to stay indoors.  This just keeps getting worse.


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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #311 on: March 14, 2011, 11:43:38 PM »
Just read this off the NHK site ..

The government has newly ordered residents living within a 20 to 30 kilometer radius of the Fukushima No.1 nuclear power plant to stay indoors.

The previously-issued evacuation order for an area within 20 kilometers of the plant remains unchanged.

 

 People within a 20k radius have been already evacuated, The people 20k to 30k are asked to stay inside, hopefully none of this changes these people have been through enough


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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #312 on: March 15, 2011, 04:40:22 AM »
The fire is out. Spent fuel rods in a storage pool were exposed, forming hydrogen gas and an explosion. That explosion caused the fire. The storage pool water temperature is now reduced, but still double what is normal. There are reports that the fire added to the radiation spike discussed below.

The radiation level near reactor 2 was 400 mSv/hr during the spike with the fire. That's high and serious for anyone in the area unprotected. It is reported to have dropped back down to 1.2 mSv within minutes. The suppression pool (a toroid with a large volume of water under the reactor) may have been damaged when a hydrogen explosion occurred near the bottom of the reactor, instead of higher in the building seen in previous explosions. The amount and nature of damage isn't clear yet.

Everyone has been evacuated from within 20 km - the evacuation started days ago. People 20 -30 km away are staying inside and taking other precautions. The radiation measurements outside the area are very low and of no consequence. I'm downwind about 100km away and not concerned or affected by the minuscule increase in radiation.
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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #313 on: March 15, 2011, 08:05:07 AM »
If I may..
For anyone still wondering, the way radiation units works is: you've got three kinds of units. One for the amount of atomic activity (ie atoms going pop per second - "curies" or "becquerels"), another for the amount of energy transfered to a set amount of mass (eg joules per kilogram - "rads" or "grays"), and a third one measuring the effects for irradiation of your whole body (rads or grays multiplied by a "Q" number = "rems" or "sieverts"; "Q" depends on the type of radiation e.g. gamma, alpha, or neutron radiation).  

Radiation is like heat (UV rays and visible light are radiation), it's everywhere and only trouble (cell damage stronger/faster than body can replace them) once you're exposed to more than a certain amount... like sunburn. EG bananas often set off radiation detectors e.g. at customs checks.  One banana's worth of radiation is more than the amount of radiation detected in a glass of local milk after Three Mile Island.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_equivalent_dose

1 Sievert = 100 rems.
1 "micro sievert" uSv = 1 millionth of a Sievert.
1 "milli rem" mrem= 1 thousandth of a rem.
1 Sv = 1,000 mSv = 1,000,000 uSv  etc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_poisoning#Exposure_levels

Living near a nuclear power station = less than 0.01 mSv/year
Eating 3 bananas/day = 0.1 mSv/year
Cosmic radiation (from sky) at sea level = 0.24 mSv/year
Terrestrial radiation (from ground) = 0.28 mSv/year
Natural radiation in the human body = 0.40 mSv/year
Average American's natural radiation exposure: 3.1 mSv/year
Radon in the average US home = 2 mSv/year
Average American's total radiation exposure: 6.2 mSv/year
Smoking 1.5 packs/day = 13 mSv/year

Note these are in Sieverts per year - the difference from plain Sieverts is as between power and energy .  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilowatt_hour#Confusion_of_kilowatt_hours_and_kilowatts_per_hour
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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #314 on: March 15, 2011, 11:40:39 AM »
You realize I will not eat a banana the same way ever again... do YOU?  :uhoh  :bhead