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Offline Widewing

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Re: Worst A/C of ww2
« Reply #45 on: March 16, 2011, 06:21:46 PM »
Quote from: Chalenge on March 16, 2011, 06:02:40 AM
General Motors P-75 Eagle. GM bought their way out of the B-29 development support group by claiming they had to devote their resources to this monstrosity. Pure fail.

Yeah, the P-75 would make my list as well. Just think what could have built with those resources wasted on that junker....
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Re: Worst A/C of ww2
« Reply #46 on: March 16, 2011, 07:00:33 PM »
Quote from: Imowface on March 16, 2011, 04:12:26 PM
TBH didnt the F-4 do very bad against MiG's compaired to the norm for the US against Korea


     Rules of Engagement...what happens when the White House tries to micromanage the war.
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Re: Worst A/C of ww2
« Reply #47 on: March 16, 2011, 08:49:22 PM »
Quote from: Delirium on March 16, 2011, 05:50:40 PM
The Spruce Goose

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It was started in 1942, finished in 1947. It barely took off, 30 feet of so off the water, and it never flew again. Even the Ba88 did better than this thing did and for less money.

Final cost? A paltry $38 million...

it was a cool idea though. the crazy thing is, it was made almost entirely of wood. 24,000hp from 8x3000hp Pratt & Whitney Wasp Majors lifted 400,000 lbs a total of... 70 ft. :o and i heard it was 25m-->7m from Hughes, and the other 18m from the US governement, even though they backed out?
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Re: Worst A/C of ww2
« Reply #48 on: March 16, 2011, 08:53:56 PM »
Quote from: Delirium on March 16, 2011, 05:50:40 PM
The Spruce Goose

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It was started in 1942, finished in 1947. It barely took off, 30 feet of so off the water, and it never flew again. Even the Ba88 did better than this thing did and for less money.

Final cost? A paltry $38 million...

The only reason why he took that flight was to prevent the government from filing charges against him for fraud and misuse of government funds.

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Re: Worst A/C of ww2
« Reply #49 on: March 16, 2011, 08:57:43 PM »
he threatened to leave the US if he wasnt allowed to fly that thing, did he not? it was really just a matter of honour, i think.
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Re: Worst A/C of ww2
« Reply #50 on: March 16, 2011, 09:16:33 PM »
Quote from: B-17 on March 16, 2011, 08:49:22 PM
it was a cool idea though. the crazy thing is, it was made almost entirely of wood. 24,000hp from 8x3000hp Pratt & Whitney Wasp Majors lifted 400,000 lbs a total of... 70 ft. :o and i heard it was 25m-->7m from Hughes, and the other 18m from the US governement, even though they backed out?

The sad reality was Hughes was a genius... and by that time, a madman.

Everything I've ever read indicates it was a high speed taxi test, and there was never the intention at that time to become airbourne.... she lifted off rather unexpectedly, and they put her right back down.

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Re: Worst A/C of ww2
« Reply #51 on: March 16, 2011, 09:40:12 PM »
Quote from: B-17 on March 16, 2011, 08:57:43 PM
he threatened to leave the US if he wasnt allowed to fly that thing, did he not? it was really just a matter of honour, i think.

He was in a middle of a Senate investigation into his use of government funds for the project.  Depending on what the Senate hearing committee decided, Hughes could have faced criminal charges for fraud and misuse of government funds if the plane never flew.

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Re: Worst A/C of ww2
« Reply #52 on: March 16, 2011, 10:00:14 PM »
Quote from: Gianlupo on March 16, 2011, 06:02:30 PM
Dang, I couldn't win not even this time! :furious

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Re: Worst A/C of ww2
« Reply #53 on: March 16, 2011, 10:05:55 PM »
Quote from: Reaper90 on March 16, 2011, 09:16:33 PM
The sad reality was Hughes was a genius... and by that time, a madman.

Everything I've ever read indicates it was a high speed taxi test, and there was never the intention at that time to become airbourne.... she lifted off rather unexpectedly, and they put her right back down.



read his biography or auto biograpy and I think the reason for the thing flying is because he knew the media had it covered from every angle and he wanted for everyone then and 100 years from now to know it really flies.
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Re: Worst A/C of ww2
« Reply #54 on: March 17, 2011, 01:17:09 AM »
Quote from: Karnak on March 16, 2011, 12:27:28 AM
Fairey Battle was merely obsolete.  Boulton Paul Defiant was a bad idea.

Looks kinda cool, What was soooo bad?  
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Re: Worst A/C of ww2
« Reply #55 on: March 17, 2011, 05:53:21 AM »
Quote from: W7LPNRICK on March 17, 2011, 01:17:09 AM
Looks kinda cool, What was soooo bad?  

"Coolest" looking coffin two guys could ask for, I guess.
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Re: Worst A/C of ww2
« Reply #56 on: March 17, 2011, 06:06:07 AM »
Quote from: W7LPNRICK on March 17, 2011, 01:17:09 AM
Looks kinda cool, What was soooo bad?  
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see any forward firing guns on that thing? thats why it was so bad.
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Re: Worst A/C of ww2
« Reply #57 on: March 17, 2011, 11:27:36 AM »
Bad eyes, I saw that Pitot tube & thought it was a cannon barrel.
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Re: Worst A/C of ww2
« Reply #58 on: March 17, 2011, 02:24:13 PM »
Quote from: Karnak on March 16, 2011, 12:27:28 AM
Fairey Battle was merely obsolete.  Boulton Paul Defiant was a bad idea.

Good distinction, though I'd say that maybe the idea for the Defiant was obsolete...?

Another candidate:  the intended replacement for the very successful B5N "Kate" carrier-based torpedo bomber, the B6N Tenzan/"Jill" ?  Thing was in the testing and development phase for a few years, had structural deficiencies (weak tailhook, weak main gear), handled poorly (unstable in yaw), and always was difficult to fly at low speeds (i.e., landing)...


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Re: Worst A/C of ww2
« Reply #59 on: March 17, 2011, 05:58:31 PM »
Quote from: Bino on March 17, 2011, 02:24:13 PM
Another candidate:  the intended replacement for the very successful B5N "Kate" carrier-based torpedo bomber, the B6N Tenzan/"Jill" ? 


Now that you mention the Jill...the SB2C Helldiver would be in the running for worst plane of the war, too.

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