Author Topic: HT I have a better way for arena transitions.  (Read 2870 times)

Offline Yeager

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Re: HT I have a better way
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2011, 01:13:48 PM »
all organisms evolve to higher levels of complexity until they collapse under their own weight and die off.

I recommend AH follow the KISS principle/  Keep It Simple Stupid.
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Re: Really long titles screw up replying
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2011, 01:14:12 PM »
I assume anyone else with experience in servers is also holding their head in their hands and sobbing quietly right now?

I really don't mind the 4 clicks of the mouse it takes to go from one arena to another at switch time.

All easy things in this world have already been done.

Show me a way to get into capped orange (where my squad already is due to timezone difference) at my timezone using 4 clicks and I'll buy you a beer.
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Re: HT I have a better way for arena transitions.
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2011, 01:18:28 PM »
i see a single flaw in the idea that could prevent it from working properly...it's the word "restart"...that's what happens when the single arena transitions to two...one gets shut down and the other 2 get started up...and there is a lot of behind the scenes stuff that would not allow that kind of "teleporting" transition.

On reading again I have to restate:

Only 1 new server would need to be started, 50% players migrated to the running copy of the current one and current one would naturally continue to run but only with 50% leftover players. Both sides would see exactly half cut in the amount of arena numbers with the exception that squad friends would continue flying at their original positions on the same server with you.

I know my suggestion is a 'perfect world' solution meaning implementing it would cause a major headache for the developers.
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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2011, 01:23:38 PM »
All easy things in this world have already been done.

Show me a way to get into capped orange (where my squad already is due to timezone difference) at my timezone using 4 clicks and I'll buy you a beer.
I wouldn't know a way, I don't go into Orange. My squad fly Blue and there is never an issue getting in (thanks to the Crazies clamouring to get into Orange). We fly together and our panties never twist over caps.
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Re: HT I have a better way for arena transitions. .
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2011, 01:26:46 PM »
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Host: You are now being ported to the other main arena. You will be at your same speed and AGL altitude over a front line friendly base with full ammo and takeoff selected fuel.

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Accept?   Decline?

OK Fester, which would you choose? Accept? Decline?

Anyone else?


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Re: Really long titles screw up replying
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2011, 01:29:45 PM »
I assume anyone else with experience in servers is also holding their head in their hands and sobbing quietly right now?

Yes, along with the coding that would be required.

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Re: HT I have a better way for arena transitions. .
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2011, 01:31:23 PM »
OK Fester, which would you choose? Accept? Decline?

Anyone else?


wrongway

A better question would be would you prefer to be teleported to a running war with half the amount of players or having to log off and potentially get locked out of the full server where your friends went.
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Re: Really long titles screw up replying
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2011, 01:32:08 PM »
Yes, along with the coding that would be required.

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Gosh, you're absolutely right!

HT should never have abandoned Warbirds and started AH because it was such an amount of work.

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Re: HT I have a better way for arena transitions. .
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2011, 01:33:37 PM »
A better question would be would you prefer to be teleported to a running war with half the amount of players or having to log off and potentially get locked out of the full server where your friends went.

Are people still allowed to log into the original arena?
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Re: HT I have a better way for arena transitions. .
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2011, 01:35:01 PM »
A better question would be would you prefer to be teleported to a running war with half the amount of players or having to log off and potentially get locked out of the full server where your friends went.

this

if it simplifies it do not make it an accept or decline option. just port all dweebs the moment the after hours/split prime time main arenas go live.

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It's still tooooo long!
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2011, 01:35:14 PM »
I don't mind the system they have now, though I think the times might need reconsidering.  So, decline from me.
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Re: Really long titles screw up replying
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2011, 01:36:17 PM »
Gosh, you're absolutely right!

HT should never have abandoned Warbirds and started AH because it was such an amount of work.

It's not easy - but the goal is to create something. Creating something takes hard work and pain.

Who said abandoned it?  I just commented on the coding that it would take would be rather extensive and depending on the difficulty, could be the thing that keeps it from happening.  

Also, I think Fester's idea while on paper might have some merits but in practice wouldn't work very well.

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Re: HT I have a better way for arena transitions. .
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2011, 01:36:24 PM »
Are people still allowed to log into the original arena?

As I said if a 400 player arena splits in half the result will be 2x200 player arenas that both can take new players with ease. Or switch sides.

As long as neither server is full and neither server is practically emty players should reasonably thinking be satisfied.

Then if numbers drop to 2x80 or something, more and more players will start to pack the larger server untill smaller dies off and the larger at some point grows back to split status.

You could even implement a minimum threshold that would boot the players on the 'losing' server to the larger one if the larger one has less than optimal amount of players.
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Re: HT I have a better way for arena transitions. .
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2011, 01:40:08 PM »
As I said if a 400 player arena splits in half the result will be 2x200 player arenas that both can take new players with ease. Or switch sides.

As long as neither server is full and neither server is practically emty players should reasonably thinking be satisfied.

Then if numbers drop to 2x80 or something, more and more players will start to pack the larger server untill smaller dies off and the larger at some point grows back to split status.

Ok, let's say 400 people are on, it splits into 2x200.

What happens when 150 of the people from the second arena just got plucked out of a great fight and log out of that arena and back into the primary arena because 'that's where teh gud fitez ar!'

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« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2011, 01:44:38 PM »
Start small;

HTC, please can we have a 'Refresh' button in the Lobby so that we don't have to log out and in to get updated arena numbers?
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