Titanic

[F22RaptorDude]

Ramming an Iceberg would have saved them?    The Titanic nor most ships....(I did NOT say "all") could ram an Iceberg and be in a "good condition" to limp home.    Engines don't "numb" so stop using that term please.

I mean stay afloat long enough to have most of the passengers saved. and my bad

[Masherbrum]

I mean stay afloat long enough to have most of the passengers saved. and my bad

With the already weakened steel prior to grazing the Iceberg, explain how ramming same the Iceberg would have been less catastrophic?   Because now the Bow is crushed and torn like a soda can.   Do you understand that 90-95% of the Iceberg is/was underwater so it's not like the "bottom separates" once struck.

Please regale us with your description.   I'll pick this up in the morning.

[Guppy35]

Always thought it amazing that the surviving senior officer of Titanic, C.H. Lightoller pulled 130 men off the beach at Dunkirk in his 60 foot Yacht "Sundowner".   His second son was a Lt. in the British Army and had been rescued 48 hours earlier.  His youngest son was killed flying Blenheims on the first raid to Wilhelmshaven and his oldest son was with him packing in the troops below deck.

As with anything history related, the story of Titanic's people fascinates me more then the techical what ifs.    Didn't have much time for the movie

[Masherbrum]

Always thought it amazing that the surviving senior officer of Titanic, C.H. Lightoller pulled 130 men off the beach at Dunkirk in his 60 foot Yacht "Sundowner".   His second son was a Lt. in the British Army and had been rescued 48 hours earlier.  His youngest son was killed flying Blenheims on the first raid to Wilhelmshaven and his oldest son was with him packing in the troops below deck.

As with anything history related, the story of Titanic's people fascinates me more then the techical what ifs.    Didn't have much time for the movie

Never knew that Dan.    None of the books I have read mentioned that correlation.    That is something to behold, especially more than likely under fire.     Thanks for sharing that.   

[Ack-Ack]

I mean stay afloat long enough to have most of the passengers saved. and my bad

The loss of life from ramming the iceberg head on would possibly have been rather large itself and it's pure speculation as to whether or not ramming the iceberg would have only flooded 4 water tight chambers.  Given the fact that the steel buckled, I don't think ramming the iceberg would have prevented the tragedy that happened.

ack-ack

[flight17]

Always thought it amazing that the surviving senior officer of Titanic, C.H. Lightoller pulled 130 men off the beach at Dunkirk in his 60 foot Yacht "Sundowner".   His second son was a Lt. in the British Army and had been rescued 48 hours earlier.  His youngest son was killed flying Blenheims on the first raid to Wilhelmshaven and his oldest son was with him packing in the troops below deck.

As with anything history related, the story of Titanic's people fascinates me more then the techical what ifs.    Didn't have much time for the movie

there was also a Stewardess, Violet Jessop, that served on all three ships and survived both the titantic sinking and the britannic sinking after surviving the Olympic's collision at sea with a british warship.

[F22RaptorDude]

The loss of life from ramming the iceberg head on would possibly have been rather large itself and it's pure speculation as to whether or not ramming the iceberg would have only flooded 4 water tight chambers.  Given the fact that the steel buckled, I don't think ramming the iceberg would have prevented the tragedy that happened.

ack-ack

Then would keeping the speed at full have helped? That would have kept water running over the rudder

[flight17]

Then would keeping the speed at full have helped? That would have kept water running over the rudder

yes, i already said that two nights ago. While the rudder was small for the size of the ship, it could still turn the ship on a dime at speed. Referenced Olympic doin this in WWI to misss a collision with a Sub. Had they kept full ahead, they might have missed it.

[Masherbrum]

yes, i already said that two nights ago. While the rudder was small for the size of the ship, it could still turn the ship on a dime at speed. Referenced Olympic doin this in WWI to misss a collision with a Sub. Had they kept full ahead, they might have missed it.

Correct.