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Offline Killer91

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Re: Where would the bullet land?
« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2011, 12:57:44 AM »
Quote from: Chalenge on March 26, 2011, 03:52:50 PM
It had to have happened. We know it happened at Pearl Harbor.

I not questioning your statement but do you have sources? I'd very muchly like to read about it.
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Re: Where would the bullet land?
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2011, 02:34:46 AM »
Quote from: Killer91 on March 26, 2011, 10:11:38 AM
This may be a little off topic, but were there ever any injuries reported on the ground from falling bullets or spent cases from planes?

now you know why we dont have sheeps anymore in the arenas  :salute
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Re: Where would the bullet land?
« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2011, 03:53:50 AM »
Quote from: Killer91 on March 27, 2011, 12:57:44 AM
I not questioning your statement but do you have sources? I'd very muchly like to read about it.

All you have to do is search it on the internet. There were 68 civilian deaths from all the AAA fire. Something like 45% of the collateral casualties (ironically) were Japanese Americans. I recall reading that two deaths were infant girls sharing the same crib struck by a large caliber machine gun. You dont forget that sort of thing.
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Re: Where would the bullet land?
« Reply #33 on: March 28, 2011, 04:29:04 PM »
Quote from: Noir on March 26, 2011, 02:54:51 PM
I guess a tater shell would still be dangerous after falling from 42k

The ZZ1589A/B fuzes used the initial spin from the MK108 barrel to unlock the fuse for contact detonation. After a certain amount of time passes the speed of revolution will slow down or stop for the Minengeschoss. At which point lacking sufficient spin to keep the firing spring locked up in the housing, it self detonates the Minengeschoss to keep it from potentialy destroying something or someone on the ground. The earlier AZ1587 unlocked in the same manner but had no self detonation function once armed. It had a few pre detonation issues.

One of the 109G6/U4 discussions on this board recently spoke about those problems at Reclin while trying to install the MK108 gondola kits and successfully fire them. The detonation issues with the early MK108 was as much due to problems with the gun as the ammo.
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Re: Where would the bullet land?
« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2011, 08:39:55 AM »
I remember seeing a pic of a car that was hit by falling AA that killed the occupants at Pearl.
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Re: Where would the bullet land?
« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2011, 08:55:09 AM »
Quote from: bustr on March 28, 2011, 04:29:04 PM
The ZZ1589A/B fuzes used the initial spin from the MK108 barrel to unlock the fuse for contact detonation. After a certain amount of time passes the speed of revolution will slow down or stop for the Minengeschoss. At which point lacking sufficient spin to keep the firing spring locked up in the housing, it self detonates the Minengeschoss to keep it from potentialy destroying something or someone on the ground. The earlier AZ1587 unlocked in the same manner but had no self detonation function once armed. It had a few pre detonation issues.

cool, nice info  :aok
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Offline BuckP

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Re: Where would the bullet land?
« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2011, 01:42:24 PM »
Calculus will work as well, as I used to solve a similar problem for a squaddie awhile back.  Here is the basic setup, just change the values.  Same equation will answer your questions.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/Derektutor/1Basicdiagram.jpg


http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/Derektutor/3PartsandPieces.jpg
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Re: Where would the bullet land?
« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2011, 08:07:37 PM »
Quote from: BuckP on March 31, 2011, 01:42:24 PM
Calculus will work as well, as I used to solve a similar problem for a squaddie awhile back.  Here is the basic setup, just change the values.  Same equation will answer your questions.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/Derektutor/1Basicdiagram.jpg


http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/Derektutor/3PartsandPieces.jpg

That equation does not take drag into account.

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Offline BuckP

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Re: Where would the bullet land?
« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2011, 11:36:22 PM »
Very true sir regarding drag, but that equation would basically answer the OP's question...much closer than most of these replies anyway.

+1 to Hitech in my book, he does take all aspects into consideration!  
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Offline Banshee7

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Re: Where would the bullet land?
« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2011, 11:48:30 PM »
I am simply amazed at this thread...  It makes me feel so dumb!
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Offline Iron_Cross

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Re: Where would the bullet land?
« Reply #40 on: April 03, 2011, 12:10:40 AM »
Quote from: Banshee7 on March 31, 2011, 11:48:30 PM
I am simply amazed at this thread...  It makes me feel so dumb!

This is different from how you normally feel, how?  :neener:
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Re: Where would the bullet land?
« Reply #41 on: April 03, 2011, 05:31:47 AM »
what about a HVAR rocket? how fast does it travel, when will it hit the ground at 45k and will it take a nose dive or go at a little bit of a slope?
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Re: Where would the bullet land?
« Reply #42 on: April 03, 2011, 06:41:38 AM »
Quote from: Banshee7 on March 31, 2011, 11:48:30 PM
I am simply amazed at this thread...  It makes me feel so dumb!

me too,  math makes me so  :furious .. Thankfully, I don't need a super duper high level of math to  :airplane: for real, lmao. I am submitting a WOFT packet and the math required is actually at about the same level of math for my current MOS.
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Re: Where would the bullet land?
« Reply #43 on: April 03, 2011, 12:05:20 PM »
Some how Airborn brought back this proof in my head. Learned it in High School.

http://www.math.toronto.edu/mathnet/falseProofs/first1eq2.html

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Offline BERN1

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Re: Where would the bullet land?
« Reply #44 on: April 04, 2011, 07:48:16 PM »
my head hurts...gonna go lay down for awhile,probably dream about fallin unxploded taters!!!
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