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Re: F1 driver Kimi Räikkönen to the NASCAR
« Reply #210 on: April 19, 2011, 01:05:56 PM »
Yea Ryans a dirt racer from way back. That first one he saved was just insane. He was all but 90 deg slideways and just caught it at 190 mph. THATS skills :)

I was looking that flick and it's more about Newman's luck, than skill.

Montoya's car stopped the Newman's spin to max 45deg and finally give a small smack to settle the Newman's car.

Second time? Eh, the guy was just waiting & praying.

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Re: F1 driver Kimi Räikkönen to the NASCAR
« Reply #211 on: April 19, 2011, 01:57:55 PM »
I guarantte you that there will be a new car built for the 2 car draft.  It will have an air duct that goes through to the back car so it will not overheat.

I should patent this :)
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« Reply #212 on: April 19, 2011, 02:03:44 PM »
What's to stop a really daring driver from making it a 3 car train?

You would think nascar driver's daring enough to try this but I didn't see any in this race.

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Re: F1 driver Kimi Räikkönen to the NASCAR
« Reply #213 on: April 19, 2011, 03:48:06 PM »
cause it slows the cars down
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Re: F1 driver Kimi Räikkönen to the NASCAR
« Reply #214 on: April 19, 2011, 04:00:00 PM »
What's to stop a really daring driver from making it a 3 car train?

You would think nascar driver's daring enough to try this but I didn't see any in this race.
The car in the middle would just be along for the ride.No control of the car.
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Re: F1 driver Kimi Räikkönen to the NASCAR
« Reply #215 on: April 19, 2011, 04:00:39 PM »
I was looking that flick and it's more about Newman's luck, than skill.

Montoya's car stopped the Newman's spin to max 45deg and finally give a small smack to settle the Newman's car.

Second time? Eh, the guy was just waiting & praying.
For sure Montoya saved him,but at those speeds he was more than just lucky. :aok
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Re: F1 driver Kimi Räikkönen to the NASCAR
« Reply #216 on: April 19, 2011, 05:02:39 PM »
The car in the middle would just be along for the ride.No control of the car.


So his wheels magically levitate off the ground?

I've seen 6 car trains before in nascar....just not this season.

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« Reply #217 on: April 19, 2011, 05:21:45 PM »
So his wheels magically levitate off the ground?

I've seen 6 car trains before in nascar....just not this season.
And you wont with this car. Its a whole other configuration. I liked it a lot better with many cars in a pack and working 2 lines,now its just try not to cause a wreck while you look for your dance partner.
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Re: F1 driver Kimi Räikkönen to the NASCAR
« Reply #218 on: April 20, 2011, 12:31:18 AM »
What's to stop a really daring driver from making it a 3 car train?

You would think nascar driver's daring enough to try this but I didn't see any in this race.

Its all about aerodynamic packages now since NASCAR made it into a template car that no matter WHAT manufacturer you race for your car is nearly 100% identical to the car next to you on the track. At least that is what I have been told by some former NASCAR people who still have a little hand and ear to the car owners these days. Its all about tweaking the aero package to make it work for your team mates and them alone.
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« Reply #219 on: April 20, 2011, 10:47:19 AM »
Since all cars are now "spec. bodies" then why not use this fact to do away with restrictor plates.

It would be easy to mandate a body that punches a huge hole through the air which would make restrictor plates unnecessary because the aero limits speeds.

At the same time, they could design the body such that "two car only" drafting gives no advantage over multi-car trains or...........make bump drafting a supremely unstable venture.

Before bump drafting, there was "the slingshot" and it was exciting because the draft at that time only worked on the straights because the second car in the draft experienced either lift or stability issues.

They can use the spec. body to do away with restrictor plates and bump drafting with a single body change and the non-restrictor plate engines would offer much more exciting racing.

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Re: F1 driver Kimi Räikkönen to the NASCAR
« Reply #220 on: April 20, 2011, 10:59:20 AM »
From what I know of the design limitations now they can not or will not do away with the restrictor plate. Also with the aero packages that they run bump drafting is dangerous and unstable. They still have the slingshot move that was so prevalent back several years ago with this package but not like it was back then entirely. Also one other reason they will not get rid of the restrictor plate is that with the amount of horse power and torque these car engines are capable of putting on the pavement you might see a car that would be unable to turn at all on the super speedway. Imagine an Indy car on Talladega with the 70 degree banking and the distance in the turns on that track. If the Indy drivers were blacking out at Texas due to the g-forces you would have a bunch of guys getting killed because they couldn't hold it together at Talladega going 230+ mph.

I have driven a car at Talladega and you can not keep a slow moving vehicle on the banks. Also you NEVER lift off the gas pedal on the turns at the super speedways; so just imagine Dale Jr (the non-driving idiot that he is) blacking out in the turn and never waking up because he smoked himself and 4-5 others because he couldn't cope with the g-forces that they would pull.

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Re: F1 driver Kimi Räikkönen to the NASCAR
« Reply #221 on: April 20, 2011, 12:24:05 PM »
It is very easy to build a body that looks similar to the current cars that won't allow a car with even 1200hp to break 200 no matter how long it a straight it has.

Hell....a dodge viper with 1300hp at the wheels has trouble with 240 so making a nascar body that limits top speeds would be cake.

Since the current cars have zero relation to current stock car configurations (none are rear drive from the factory), why not use a body style from the past like a fairlane fastback.

They sure look a lot nicer and have the required drag to pull down speeds.

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Re: F1 driver Kimi Räikkönen to the NASCAR
« Reply #222 on: April 20, 2011, 01:47:51 PM »
 Im all for anything that puts it all back into the hands of the driver and not the amount of $ a team can afford to throw at the sport. IE NY Yankees.
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Re: F1 driver Kimi Räikkönen to the NASCAR
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« Reply #224 on: April 29, 2011, 11:12:11 PM »
And you wont with this car. Its a whole other configuration. I liked it a lot better with many cars in a pack and working 2 lines,now its just try not to cause a wreck while you look for your dance partner.
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The current configuration is decent, but could still use a few tweaks. I like the sharkfin and redesigned splitter. We may see the end of restrictor plates soon. Next year they will be switching to fuel injection. They will be able to control performance with electronics.
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