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Re: 2011 Car Of The Year???
« Reply #45 on: April 26, 2011, 02:03:00 PM »
1)  I just saw Jack on the news. Seems he was filling up his Volt and it started raining. Services will be this weekend.

2)  Good news on the Volt...... it's small enough that he can be buried in it. :)


3)  ring ring..... Hello...... Boss it's me Ralph, I'll be very late today as I plugged in the car last night but evidently kicked a breaker.


4)  I'll be late for the meeting. My car would not go so the wrecker is towing it to Golf Carts R Us.


5) I'm headed to the track... just installed my 0000 wire and can't wait to test it out.


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Re: 2011 Car Of The Year???
« Reply #46 on: April 26, 2011, 02:08:10 PM »
i'm not sure what you mean by "don't ask that question".

and yes, i am stubborn....never said i wasn't.......possibly a little uninformed, but more than likely not as much as some think......and absolutely positively beyond a doubt, not clueless.

Can't make it any more clear than that.  You ask that question and you come across the way I mentioned.

Once again though, I have no idea why people are against electric cars.  If someone wants to use them why not?  If they don't that fine too.  We cannot even tolerate each other driving different cars in this country.  No wonder politics and religion are band from this BBS.  :lol

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Re: 2011 Car Of The Year???
« Reply #47 on: April 26, 2011, 02:18:55 PM »
Can't make it any more clear than that.  You ask that question and you come across the way I mentioned.

Once again though, I have no idea why people are against electric cars.  If someone wants to use them why not?  If they don't that fine too.  We cannot even tolerate each other driving different cars in this country.  No wonder politics and religion are banned from this BBS.  :lol




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Re: 2011 Car Of The Year???
« Reply #48 on: April 26, 2011, 02:26:44 PM »

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Thank god!  Oups, there goes the thread  :uhoh
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Re: 2011 Car Of The Year???
« Reply #49 on: April 26, 2011, 02:28:10 PM »
Thank god!  Oups, there goes the thread  :uhoh

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Re: 2011 Car Of The Year???
« Reply #50 on: April 26, 2011, 02:40:57 PM »
Can't make it any more clear than that.  You ask that question and you come across the way I mentioned.

Once again though, I have no idea why people are against electric cars.  If someone wants to use them why not?  If they don't that fine too.  We cannot even tolerate each other driving different cars in this country.  No wonder politics and religion are band from this BBS.  :lol



dood.......

i like to go fast. there is nothing piston powered that would be faster than an electric powered car. i'd friggin LOVE it. IF....and that's a BIG if......they came up with a good long range easily, and efficiently rechargeable power source.
 the only thing missing would be the engine noise....but i'd be happy to go "vroooooommmmmmmmm" as i'm accelerating away from the light.

 the problem is that there is not any of the above yet....that i know of.  the best electric cars would be hard pressed to just get me to north jersey from where i live in south jersey...and then i'd be stuck overnight whilst my car charges.

 it simply isn't feasible yet.
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Re: 2011 Car Of The Year???
« Reply #51 on: April 26, 2011, 02:59:59 PM »
dood.......

i like to go fast. there is nothing piston powered that would be faster than an electric powered car. i'd friggin LOVE it. IF....and that's a BIG if......they came up with a good long range easily, and efficiently rechargeable power source.
 the only thing missing would be the engine noise....but i'd be happy to go "vroooooommmmmmmmm" as i'm accelerating away from the light.

 the problem is that there is not any of the above yet....that i know of.  the best electric cars would be hard pressed to just get me to north jersey from where i live in south jersey...and then i'd be stuck overnight whilst my car charges.

 it simply isn't feasible yet.

And therefore, no one else should have one?  Or does this mean that the emissions from electric cars will be higher?  What exactly are you answering?  :confused:

I like going vrooooommmmm too, but I have no problems with my neighbor driving an electric car if he chooses to, nor do I ask him stupid questions to insult his intelligence or motives for buying one.

   
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Re: 2011 Car Of The Year???
« Reply #52 on: April 26, 2011, 03:14:05 PM »
And therefore, no one else should have one?  Or does this mean that the emissions from electric cars will be higher?  What exactly are you answering?  :confused:

I like going vrooooommmmm too, but I have no problems with my neighbor driving an electric car if he chooses to, nor do I ask him stupid questions to insult his intelligence or motives for buying one.

   

 i don't think i ever said no one else should drive them...........possibly you mis-interpreted something i typed?

 i still do think there's gonna be a LOT that needs to be done before electric works well, and updating the grid is one of them. i could be wrong, but i tend to think that our power grid is massively out of date. if this is true.......it won't be long till plugging in to charge overloads it.........
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Re: 2011 Car Of The Year???
« Reply #53 on: April 26, 2011, 03:41:43 PM »
Can't make it any more clear than that.  You ask that question and you come across the way I mentioned.

Once again though, I have no idea why people are against electric cars.  If someone wants to use them why not?  If they don't that fine too.  We cannot even tolerate each other driving different cars in this country.  No wonder politics and religion are band from this BBS.  :lol



I sure don't have a problem as long as they stay out of the way and are towed off in a reasonable time frame. Folks should drive what they want. I see more issues with the little toy like smart cars. Death traps to the folks who drive them crazy like.
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Re: 2011 Car Of The Year???
« Reply #54 on: April 26, 2011, 03:43:06 PM »
That's one of the worst analogies you can mention.  High speed internet sucked back then.  Just straight up sucked.  And I paid twice as much for one quarter of the speed I'm getting now.  For either DSL or Cable Modem, not even going back to IDSN days.  Actually now that I think about it, your analogy does much more to disprove your point than to prove it.


Sounds like your infrastructure was not good from the beginning.

In washington D.C. area,  early cable speeds were crazy fast........until the runs in your area became more populated with subscribers.

Then they slowed down greatly as well as having uneven latency.

But what do I know.........I'm just a MCSE from 1997 and a nissan, toyota, and lexus master technician certified in both hybrids and the new nissan leaf.
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Re: 2011 Car Of The Year???
« Reply #55 on: April 26, 2011, 03:43:33 PM »
I sure don't have a problem as long as they stay out of the way and are towed off in a reasonable time frame. Folks should drive what they want. I see more issues with the little toy like smart cars. Death traps to the folks who drive them crazy like.

 i've not seen too many of those smart cars needing towing yet...........
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Re: 2011 Car Of The Year???
« Reply #56 on: April 26, 2011, 03:44:31 PM »
i don't think i ever said no one else should drive them...........possibly you mis-interpreted something i typed?

 i still do think there's gonna be a LOT that needs to be done before electric works well, and updating the grid is one of them. i could be wrong, but i tend to think that our power grid is massively out of date. if this is true.......it won't be long till plugging in to charge overloads it.........

Electric works well now. All you need is diesels to power up the generators. Most all train locomotives are good working examples. :D
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Re: 2011 Car Of The Year???
« Reply #57 on: April 26, 2011, 03:50:21 PM »
Electric works well now. All you need is diesels to power up the generators. Most all train locomotives are good working examples. :D

Yep, must a be a reason they use the diesel engines to power the generators that drive the train instead of using the diesel engines directly.
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« Reply #58 on: April 26, 2011, 03:55:45 PM »
Yep, must a be a reason they use the diesel engines to power the generators that drive the train instead of using the diesel engines directly.

Nothing has the power, torque and smooth traction like the electric motor. The weight issue is a plus in the locomotives line of duty. In automobiles it is a major negative.


As Cap said.... no efficiency yet though.

The only successful method now is DE.
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Re: 2011 Car Of The Year???
« Reply #59 on: April 26, 2011, 07:24:30 PM »
Let’s face it, electric cars are the future. Yes they are expensive, but that will change quickly with increased volume and higher oil prices.

An electric car is basically batteries, an inverter, and a motor/generator. The maintenance on them will be almost nothing. They will eliminate the (gas powered) engine, transmission, all the junk supporting the engine, gas tank, a heavy duty power train, heavy duty brakes, and a heavy duty frame to support engine/torque.

The only thing electric cars will need to add in the future is extra crumple zones.