thoughts on wasd

[TwinBoom]

Do you guys realize what % of people try AH that do not have a joystick? If you had not played a flight sim previously , did you have a joystick?

HiTech

I didn't have a joystick the night I seen the Infamous commercial on the Military Channel
In fact didn't get a chance to get one for about 1 week and a half.
If i wasn't able to play right away I might have moved on or lost interest

My .02

[RTHolmes]

Both of my sons are gamers, neither has a joystick. How many times have you seen people ask if this game can be played with a "game controller"? Todays market is more "gamers" than simmers so so things have to be adjusted.

pretty much all gamepads these days have anaolgue axes, wont be as good as a joystick but way better than a keyboard. cheaper than keyboards too

[EagleDNY]

The WASD isn't a bad system.  Yes, many other FPS games use that system.  The problem I have with it is that not having some way to control or lock what gear the vehicle is in makes it very difficult to climb the steep hills we have in some of these maps.  The "Driver" doesn't seem to automatically downshift when the speed drops below the optimum for each gear.  Maybe that can be tweaked a bit.  WASD can be mapped to a variety of controls, so the steering will work just fine once we get used to it. 

[MunKySR]

Another point: Trying this again last night with 2BAD and HAWK, as far as we could tell thers no way to set neutral and coast down hills at high speed as before when there was a gearshift. If there is a way, lets hear it. Debatable if you could keep it from flipping with AD control.

[RTHolmes]

Another point: Trying this again last night with 2BAD and HAWK, as far as we could tell thers no way to set neutral and coast down hills at high speed as before when there was a gearshift.

good.

[kvuo75]

even tho fun, the neutral downhill was perhaps the gamiest thing in the game. I'll live withhout it.

[oceans11]

This WASD Sucks, Tanks did not have auto transmissions . Who wants to look down at there keyboard even for a second while they a moving in a GV.
Using a Mouse in a flying sim???? Are you kidding me ?  How old are we ? That  is a joke. I thought flying a plane required some type of Stick? This is looking more and more like a xbox /sony P3 Hardware redered Game rather than a realistic fighter SIM. If the only thing that was intend from this was the realistic turret sites so be it . But the game is ruined for the GVing now . You get stuck going up hills,also its confused if you spawn in to a spot that leaves you on a slant. When you move the turret around I feel like I am waving a shotgun.... All you need are air bags, satellite radio and cup holders now. You can use the squirrels in the trees to give out texting while gving tickets to the apparent 15 yr old's you have programming the code . And whats with the  mouse moving my view all around in the Gun positions of a bomber ? The gun used to stay in one spot. Now you get in the thing needs to re calibrate every time you get back to that position .

The biggest joke , A tank still cannot go over a bush . You stop faster than a car hitting the side of cement wall


Here's a thought

Why not allow it to be both ways those that wants the keyboard/mouse (xbox method)  and those that want the Joystick Realistic method.

I am done venting

[CAV]

Do you guys realize what % of people try AH that do not have a joystick?

Do you realize how many of us have been playing from the first days of Airwarrior and have a few $100 in flight gear so I didn't have use a keyboard.........

Just saying......... the W,A,S,D thing....... sucks


Cavalry

[Baine]

Do you guys realize what % of people try AH that do not have a joystick? If you had not played a flight sim previously , did you have a joystick?

HiTech

Given the state of skill at AH, I think anyone who has never played a flight sim before and jumps into this game -particularly without a joystick - isn't going to last out the trial period, no matter what you do. I played Air Warrior and Red Baron offline for months before jumping online, and got my tail kicked royally for my first couple of months up against real pilots in "relaxed realism." I couldn't imagine never playing a flight sim before and then trying to enjoy myself in the main arena with WASD controls. I'd never sign up to pay. I also can't imagine someone saying "Oh, I don't have a joystick, so why don't I try GVing until I can buy one." 

That being said, as a longtime player, the only thing that really bothers me about WASD is the E is so freakin close to W and D. Let's move the ignition switch so I'm not killing the engine at some crucial moment in the fight.

[oceans11]

Do you realize how many of us have been playing from the first days of Airwarrior and have a few $100 in flight gear so I didn't have use a keyboard.........

Just saying......... the W,A,S,D thing....... sucks


Cavalry

Try close to $300 pedals and stick
Both now rendered usless

[kvuo75]

Try close to $300 pedals and stick
Both now rendered usless

300$ pedals and stick just to drive the old GV model?

[oceans11]

300$ pedals and stick just to drive the old GV model?

no they double when flying .It worked for both .
pedals moved left right while in turret view. main fire fired cannon .JS left right and forward and reverse

[kvuo75]

my point is they were not "rendered useless"

[KG45]

as a dedicated GVer, not liking WASD.

also, i'm finding my old JS has problems staying calibrated. mostly not a prob, but it now means slightest spike sends gun/turret spinning as i'm driving.

would mind option to either/or the mouse/joystick

[Belial]

Do you guys realize what % of people try AH that do not have a joystick? If you had not played a flight sim previously , did you have a joystick?

HiTech

I agree, but give us both options please.  I play with my joystick screwed down so I would have to change back and forth when flying.

Could we keep the old joystick setup and just add commander rudder control.