Nakajima Ki-43 Hayabusa ("Oscar")

[coombz]

I feel dumb now  .

there is a reason for that 

[Ack-Ack]

KI43s shot down B29s in the war.

That sounds to me like successful late war operations.

It also shot down more Allied planes than any other Japanese fighter and almost all of the JAAF pilots that made ace did so in the Ki-43.

ack-ack

[Mitsu.]

Bring Ki-43-II- Late version or Ki-43-III for me err Aces High!

[skribetm]

ki-43 I/II/III in 2012 PLEASE! and He-111.
HTC please support special events more, that's where the best in-game experience happens! 

NOT the mA! 

[Slade]

And the winner of the 2012 election is....

KI-43 I/II/III, Yak-3 and He-111!!!

[HighTone]

And the winner of the 2012 election is....

KI-43 I/II/III, Yak-3 and He-111!!!

I would love to see that.

             

[SmokinLoon]

And the winner of the 2012 election is....

KI-43 I/II/III, Yak-3 and He-111!!!

Sorry.  As long as stupid people are allowed to vote, the end vote wont for for a well thought out and logical answer.  We saw that in the 2008 US Presidential election.     Instead, we'll keep getting the "flash-bang" effects and the "in the now" items instead of the more long term and better suited additions to AH. 

[Tank-Ace]

As many have said before, many many many times, whats long-term and better suited is a matter of oppinion. Are we talking from a purely Special Events standpoint, a purely MA standpoint, or a mix of the two.

Ki-43
SE: important for PTO events only, needed, but of lower priority than the He-111 based on # of relevent events.

MA: needed for EW/MW, probably just a faster Brewster buffalo with even less armor in the LW arena, not very important.

He-111
SE: Imporant for EW ETO, Afrika, and EW-MW Eastern Front events, needed

MA: needed for EW/MW, Hanger queen in LW, not very important overall.


Panzer III (assuming multiple models are given):
SE: important for ETP, MTO, Eastern Front, between EW-MW. Needed above He-111 and Ki-43 based on # of relevent events (assuming GV's are used)

MA: Needed for EW/MW, hanger queen in LW.


From a purely MA perspective, none of the above are really important. From an SEA event, they are (within their own events). Mixed, it would probably be the He-111 or Panzer III simply because they can be used for a wider range of events, and give us something thats significantly different in the MA.

[HighTone]

As many have said before, many many many times, whats long-term and better suited is a matter of oppinion. Are we talking from a purely Special Events standpoint, a purely MA standpoint, or a mix of the two.

Ki-43
SE: important for PTO events only, needed, but of lower priority than the He-111 based on # of relevent events.

MA: needed for EW/MW, probably just a faster Brewster buffalo with even less armor in the LW arena, not very important.

He-111
SE: Imporant for EW ETO, Afrika, and EW-MW Eastern Front events, needed

MA: needed for EW/MW, Hanger queen in LW, not very important overall.


Panzer III (assuming multiple models are given):
SE: important for ETP, MTO, Eastern Front, between EW-MW. Needed above He-111 and Ki-43 based on # of relevent events (assuming GV's are used)

MA: Needed for EW/MW, hanger queen in LW.


From a purely MA perspective, none of the above are really important. From an SEA event, they are (within their own events). Mixed, it would probably be the He-111 or Panzer III simply because they can be used for a wider range of events, and give us something thats significantly different in the MA.

GV's are not important for any special event.

And you are to quick to label something a hanger queen.


Ki-43 

[Tank-Ace]

Like I said, its assuming they are used.

And I'm not at all quick to assume anything. The Brewster is a hanger queen for the most part. You rarely see them now, save for a handfull that up to defend against a CV attack. We'll probably see the same with the Ki-43 if we get it.

[nrshida]

It is irrelevant if the aircraft becomes mostly a 'hangar queen' in the MA after it is introduced. Assuming HTC uses historical significance as a guideline for the introduction of aircraft (and I don't think they do) then both the Ki-43 and the He-111 (for instance) will already be in the queue for inclusion.

The case for arguing that this tank or that should be included before any aircraft doesn't hold any validity amongst the majority of us since some people have been requesting their favourite aircraft for more than ten years and gathering resources, data and pictures etcetera, living in perpetual hope that theirs get introduced next.

Besides, I think I don't only speak for myself when I say that the ground war aspect has been very well developed lately, with many new vehicles added, the new 'commander mode' of operation added and now a change to icon ranges and the inclusion of the Storch.

The fighter aircraft fans can justifiably feel neglected  

[skribetm]

out of all the scenarios in rotation, i am least likely to join anything pacific theater due to inaccurate planesets. for example, burma.

i really hope htc considers developing for special events.


ther most hardcore/loyal/longtime subscribers participate in special events mostly.

and the scenario 3 to 4 hours on a saturday night/afternoon tops the best times i've had in this game by a mile!

developing/supporting special events will undoubtedly increase participation.

id also like to add progressive planesets every frame like in battle over germany make it so much better too.

just look at the #'s and the feedback in the forums!

[Tank-Ace]

I'm not arguing against that nrshida, all I'm saying is that if we're going purely by historical significance, then there are other more important additions. If we're going by purely MA usage, there are other more important additions. If we're going purely off of special events usage, then there are other more important additions.


If you want the Ki-43, then fine. But don't try to make it sound like its THE most important thing we could get right now, cause its not.

[Karnak]

Actually, looking at it from a "which is most important historically" perspective, the Ki-43 will, at worst, tie any other aircraft not in the game.  The He111 went from failure to failure.  The Wellington, the workhorse of RAF Bomber Command for the first two years of the way, presided over the period in which the average distance an RAF bomb missed its target by was measured in miles.  The Pe-2 was extremely important to the VVS and is the most likely aircraft to be "more important historically" than the Ki-43.

[Tank-Ace]

Aircraft, yes. But you're completely ignoring GV's. If you want to use the 'this is historicly important' argument, then you have to acknowledge the fact that GV's did the heavy lifting in WWII.

Aircraft were important, yes, but it was the GROUND troops that actually went out, and took the land away from the enemy. Ground troops could have won the war if aircraft had never been invented, but the aircraft couldn't have won the war without the ground troops to actually go and take the land away.