Sync Climb/Speed Chart With Selected Aircraft

[100Coogn]

                              Here is the speed chart for the P38-J
 

                            Now I've scrolled down and selected a P47-N
 

It's still showing the results for the P38-J.  I know we can right-click on each plane individually, but it seems to me it would
be more efficient to just click on any plane, while the clipboard window is open, and get the results right away.

  Coogan

[Krusty]

Nice idea. +1


However the charts themselves are still suspect until HTC revisits them all.

[Skuzzy]

Our speed and climb charts all update automatically with each patch/update.  The WEB charts are usually a few minutes behind a patch/update.  There is nothing to "revisit".

As far as how the game deals with the selection goes, that is out of my hands.

[Krusty]

Skuzzy: Some of the weights chosen for the charts are non-standard. I.E. fw190f8 and seafire, amongst some others.

I also recall some debate about the listed weights for given charts some years back, and I don't know if they were ever updated back then either.

[Skuzzy]

The charts are all generated in real-time.  They are not canned charts.  There is nothing to update.  As far as what weight is being shown, the charts information is consistent with the weight being displayed.

[Krusty]

Yes, but that's the problem.. consistent "with the weight shown" but that weight in some cases is not a logical loadout.

You get a seafire showing 100% identical loadouts to a spit5. You get a 190F8 with 100% identical charts to a 190a8. The weight used isn't even a valid loadout option in the hangar sometimes.


By "revisit" I mean go over what criteria you feed into the charts. It ought to be some standard (i.e. 100% internal and basic guns package, or 50% fuel, whatever you decide, but mostly clean stores) otherwise comparing the planes means nothing. While technically accurate, the relative performance tells you nothing.

See here:

Performance charts are based on a specific weight which is listed on the chart and does not necessarily represent any particular loadout configuration.  The charts don't state that the Seafire and Spit V will climb at the same rate with the same fuel load, they state they'll climb at the same rate at the same weight.

That explains why they need revisiting IMO. That thread gets going about page 3.

[Skuzzy]

I cannot address any type of programming changes.  I was addressing the fact that you stated, "the charts themselves are still suspect until HTC revisits them all" and "the listed weights for given charts some years back, and I don't know if they were ever updated back then either".

Neither statement is accurate.

As it stands, at this moment, the charts accurately represent the aircraft performance, in the game, given the data.

If you want to be able to pick some weight and have a chart drawn for that weight, then make that a "Wishlist" item.  Inferring the charts are invalid is simply not true.

[Krusty]

I see... I was using the term "suspect" in a different way. I was calling them out on usefulness, rather than accuracy. Sorry for the confusion there.

Meaning, while technically accurate, you can't gain much info from them. So it's suspect when it shows a Spit5 climbing the same as a Seafire, even though accurate to the weight fed into the charts. The Spit5 will climb better than the seafire because it is lighter for any given fuel loadout. So the chart is "suspect" in that it's not showing you the real story, even if it's accurate.

Sorry for the side-track.

[100Coogn]

ermm, don't want to get things off the OP.
Just want things to be a little more user friendly.
Never questioned the accuracy of the specs or what not.

Coogan

[jolly22]

ermm, don't want to get things off the OP.
Just want things to be a little more user friendly.
Never questioned the accuracy of things.

Coogan

See what you started? an argument between the two know-it-alls.

[100Coogn]

See what you started? an argument between the two know-it-alls.

Hell, I was just wishing.  Look where it got me.   

  Coogan

[100Coogn]

                              Here is the speed chart for the P38-J
 

                            Now I've scrolled down and selected a P47-N
 

It's still showing the results for the P38-J.  I know we can right-click on each plane individually, but it seems to me it would
be more efficient to just click on any plane, while the clipboard window is open, and get the results right away.

  Coogan

                                     Just to stay on topic with the OP, this is kinda' what I had in mind...