Hahah, anytime Penguin. You like taking the OP. I like causing the forum SAM sites to blast ya 
how this game on the AH BBS boards works 
I am logical by nature, I think and rethink almost everything. However I have only recently grasped that logic and fact.. while practically applicable... are exactly that... nothing but practical..
To develop true understanding, all factors must be explored.. all variables accounted for.. that is scientific process. When dealing with humanity.. one simply cannot ignore emotions.. Love, Determination, Hatred.. they have been responsible for not only every single decision made.. but also the causes of that decision needing to arise. Humans, like all living things. Are afflicted with emotion, their mood, thought process, experiences and so forth.. make them inherently biased. Everything to do with humanity... is opinion and interpretation (good and evil for example)... not fact. Only Mathematics and Science are linear... everything else is open to interpretation.
Penguin you have not yet figured out the most important question of all..... It is not how that is important...
It is why.
I am not a science student, I think it is obvious that I am a humanities student. I do not deal with how, I deal with why. However that said I will attempt. Sticking to the scientific argument.
I understand newtons law. And I understand that. And I was speaking from a paper I read some time ago so you are more than likely correct on the proton decay. The details of the paper stated that the universe will expand, and then retract until the universe is crushed and destroyed and then reformed as the next universe. Like all scientific theory it is precisely that, theory. We have no idea what will actually happen, or how it will happen or even why it will happen. It just will or won't until we have the means at our disposal to see for ourselves.
And I think we deserve to have a squeakers unite moment on this one penguin because for the first time. We agree 
So highschools in Australia separate into scientific, humanties, and technical? I never knew that. However, I have taught myself these scientific principles; they have spurred my intrest in the cosmos.
You are correct that there are multiple scientific theories competing to be the correct one in the case of the ultimate fate of the universe. This is not always the case however, and the theories of gravity and electricity are well established. A theory in science is a very high level of work; a theory in everyday speech corresponds to 'hypothesis' in science, an untested but logical assertion.
However, dark matter and the curve of spacetime will play a huge role in deciding how our universe ends (or not). If the curve of spacetime is positive, then no lines are paralell and the universe will continue expanding at an ever expanding rate. If the curve of spacetime is negative, then all lines intersect and the universe will once again contract. If spacetime is not curved, then the universe will expand forever at a steady rate.
sorry but good and evil are not opinion...Science is based on a lie, so in fact almost nothing that science says can be taken as absolute truth.
this and penguin's OP is part of whats wrong in this world today, people who think they are so smart, in all reality they are blind walking in darkness.
some of the dumbest people who I have met are doctors and lawyers, oh they may have an "education" but that don't make them "smart" or should I say "enlightened"
Good and evil are actually quite relative; they are the products of our own minds. That is not to say that I would agree with burning babies, but if that were the norm in another culture, then it would be seen as 'good' there. There cannot be absolute standards to judge behavior because of the diversity of culture. For instance, some abhor condoms, but I wouldn't dare 'have fun' without one.
Science makes no comment on the supernatural.
However, I don't understand what seems to be an aversion to science. Some look upon it as magic, when it's just a whole bunch of people trying to answer questions (e.g., How will the universe end? How much electricity does the brain produce? Can you milk a hamster?). It's given scientists a bad rap; take the example of Dr. Frankenstein, he is a clear picture of what people thought of scientists and researchers at the time. Scientists are people, too!
-Penguin
P.S., Squeakers, UNITE!
