The Immortal Mind

[dedalos]

When I was younger I dated a girl whose mom had her own gravitational field, perhaps I should ask her?

How fast can you run? 

[Yossarian]

sorry but good and evil are not opinion...Science is based on a lie, so in fact almost nothing that science says can be taken as absolute truth.

this and penguin's OP is part of whats wrong in this world today, people who think they are so smart, in all reality they are blind walking in darkness.

some of the dumbest people who I have met are doctors and lawyers, oh they may have an "education" but that don't make them "smart" or should I say "enlightened"

So what does make people smart?

And also, how is science based on a lie?  What lie?

[Penguin]

Two non answers.  Excellent!  I thought I told you not to come back with curvatures.  I need to know what is causing that curvature in time and space, and why.  Not in a philosophical sense, but using physics.  If gravity has been explained and it is a well established theory, I'd like to know what it is that causes it.  You only described one of the effects that it has. 

As much as I would enjoy torturing you with this, take the time and check some of what the top physicists have said about it.  We can see the effects of it, but we don;t know what causes gravity.  We don;t have an explanation on what is causing that force.

Oops, directions fail.  My bad.  Anyway, I didn't know how deep you wanted to go on this topic.  The next part in the causation of gravity is as of yet not definitively determined.  Two of the top hypotheses are a gravity transmitting particle (similar to a photon in its role) and another universe that leaks gravity into ours.  The 'graviton' has not been located as of yet, along with the other universe.  The gravity leak does a good deal to explain why gravity is weaker than electromagnetism, though.  However, both explanations are quite exotic, and will require mountains of evidence to verify.

However, in Newtonian physics (the physics that we deal with the most on a daily basis) gravity is very well defined.  The same applies to the theory of electricity.  If you don't believe me, try jumping off a tall building or dropping a toaster into a bucket of salt water that has your foot in it.

-Penguin

[dedalos]

Oops, directions fail.  My bad.  Anyway, I didn't know how deep you wanted to go on this topic.  The next part in the causation of gravity is as of yet not definitively determined.  Two of the top hypotheses are a gravity transmitting particle (similar to a photon in its role) and another universe that leaks gravity into ours.  The 'graviton' has not been located as of yet, along with the other universe.  The gravity leak does a good deal to explain why gravity is weaker than electromagnetism, though.  However, both explanations are quite exotic, and will require mountains of evidence to verify.

However, in Newtonian physics (the physics that we deal with the most on a daily basis) gravity is very well defined.  The same applies to the theory of electricity.  If you don't believe me, try jumping off a tall building or dropping a toaster into a bucket of salavacadoer that has your foot in it.

-Penguin

Conclusion, gravity has not been defined/explained yet and we can only show examples of it effects.   You don;t seem to understand the difference between knowing that if you throw an apple from a tower it will fall, and knowing what causes the force that makes it fall.

[Penguin]

We have not yet fully understood gravity in every way possible.  That does not mean that our understanding of gravity is poor or weak- it means that we are still learning about it.  If that is what you are after, I cede the point.

-Penguin

[dedalos]

We have not yet fully understood gravity in every way possible.  That does not mean that our understanding of gravity is poor or weak- it means that we are still learning about it.  If that is what you are after, I cede the point.

-Penguin

You have yet to present anything that shows any understanding of how gravity works.  All you have shown me is different versions of "if you drop something it will fall" but not why it falls.  Not only our understanding of it is poor and weak, it is non existent.  We only know it exists.

[Penguin]

That's a big claim, and you have no evidence, either.  Until you present some, your point is unsound.

-Penguin

[morfiend]

 Penguin,


  To answer 1 of your questions.....Yes.... you can milk a hamster it just takes tiny fingers!






   

[Skuzzy]

dedalos is quite right.  We do not know what gravity "is", in any fundamental way.  We only know how it behaves.

[Penguin]

Alright, I surrender.  Dedalos wins the match.

  Good Game.

-Penguin

[Guppy35]

dedalos is quite right.  We do not know what gravity "is", in any fundamental way.  We only know how it behaves.

You realize Skuzzy, by saying that dedalos is right, he's going to be just about impossible to live with from here on out.  Sure you don't want to edit that out?  You do moderate the boards after all

[Skuzzy]

You realize Skuzzy, by saying that dedalos is right, he's going to be just about impossible to live with from here on out.  Sure you don't want to edit that out?  You do moderate the boards after all

He's been easy to live with?

[Plawranc]

lol, I was waiting for Dedalos to pull that one.. but Skuzzy putting his hammer of hellish awesomeness behind tipped it for me.

But Im going to give props to Penguin for fighting that one. 

[LThunderpocket]

If I could recollect before my hood days
 I'd sit and reminisce, thinking of bliss of the good days
 I stop and stare at the younger, my heart goes to 'em
 They tested, it was stress that they under
 And nowadays things changed
 Everyone's ashamed to the youth cause the truth looks strange
 And for me it's reversed, we left them a world that's cursed, and it hurts
 'cause any day they'll push the button
 and you all condemned like Malcolm X and Bobby Hutton, died for nothin
 Don't them let me get teary, the world looks dreary
 but when you wipe your eyes, see it clearly
 there's no need for you to fear me
 if you take your time to hear me, maybe you can learn to cheer me
 it ain't about black or white, cause we're human
 I hope we see the light before its ruined

Tell me do you see that old lady ain't it sad
 Living out a bag, but she's glad for the little things she has
 And over there there's a lady, crack got her crazy
 Guess she's given birth to a baby
 I don't trip and let it fade me, from outta the frying pan
 We jump into another form of slavery
 Even now I get discouraged
 Wonder if they take it all back while I still keep the courage
 I refuse to be a role model
 I set goals, take control, drink out my own bottles
 I make mistakes, I learn from everyone
 And when it's said and done
 I bet this Brother be a better one
 If I upset you, don't stress
 Never forget, that God hasn't finished with me yet
 I feel his hand on my brain
 When I write rhymes, I go blind, and let the lord do his thang
 But am I less holy
 'cause I choose to puff a blunt and drink a beer with my homies
 Before we find world peace
 We gotta find peace and end the war on the streets
 
 

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So what does make people smart?

And also, how is science based on a lie?  What lie?

intelligence is what makes people smart.

science says that is was happenstance..the big bang theory....just happened....that is a lie.