190 training

[Condor11]

I've finnally found a bird to suit my tastes, the beautiful and deadly 190.a5. I've been using it regularly for the last few months, and have landed multiple ace sorties, and flown it to great success in some rough situations ( numbers, alt, e , etc disadvantages.
Being that I finnaly found my bird, and know there are far better sticks out there for it, I wanted to get some tricks and tips for it. Anything u can offer is greatly appreciated, and I appreciate the help in my attempts to master this beast.

im particularly interested in weapn pack, alt, maneuvers (more vertical, stall fighting, tail slide (cant seem to get it im her), and general tips for bringimg out her full potential.

Ty and happy hunting
Condor

[JOACH1M]

I have a film 4v1 in my 190a5 and u were there! In your typh! I'll post film when on computer!

[Condor11]

HAhaha, if I was in a typhie I must of been pissed lol...its my pickin plane lol....
The 190 is my solo/ scrapper.

[Hawk55]

See if 'IrishOne' from the Muppets has some time...he's very accomplished in that model 190.

[JOACH1M]

HAhaha, if I was in a typhie I must of been pissed lol...its my pickin plane lol....
The 190 is my solo/ scrapper.

Lol....

[Debrody]

The 190 is my solo/ scrapper.

Condor,
for me the 190s are really hard to fly in solo. Their real poor turn rate and even worse stall speed makes it very difficult to win a stallfight even against a pony or a jug. The only thong you can do is BnZ or energy-fight so there isnt as much difference between the 190 series and the typthoon...

[JOACH1M]

Condor,
for me the 190s are really hard to fly in solo. Their real poor turn rate and even worse stall speed makes it very difficult to win a stallfight even against a pony or a jug. The only thong you can do is BnZ or energy-fight so there isnt as much difference between the 190 series and the typthoon...

I'm sorry i have to disagree, once film posted I'll show you

[ACE]

Condor,
for me the 190s are really hard to fly in solo. Their real poor turn rate and even worse stall speed makes it very difficult to win a stallfight even against a pony or a jug. The only thong you can do is BnZ or energy-fight so there isnt as much difference between the 190 series and the typthoon...

In a way your right.  Such as the solo thing, IMO you need a wingman in the 190. But if you fly it agressive you can handle certain 1v1s.

But this is just my opion.

[Condor11]

WEll part of the reason I like the a5 is that it can actually turn .not like a spit but reasonably well....its totally different plane imo then the later models.
its not a pure speed demon and I can energy fight real well with it. The typhie is what I bring when im pissed n want pure bnz pickage

Edited for spelling

[Debrody]

Joachim: ok you killed a newb or a poor pilot, but with equal pilots, your 190 will never turn with anything better than a D-stang. Maybe if there are a larger difference between the opponents skill, the A-5 may hold its own against a Jak, C205 or a K-4, but those stupid auto-retracting flaps pretty much limit the overshooting/stallfighting ability.
Ace: i agree, having a wingman can be real nice, the 190s are designed to be effective in a group vs group fight.
Condor: dont feed false illusions, the a5s turn rate wont save the world, but it can keep up with anything for 1-2 turns, force a snapshot then disengage, reset the fight and repeat it again : )

[Condor11]

Your Very right sir, and I dont have false illusions, but its turn rate works exactly as you started. The reason I have success with it is because during the first or second turn I make with it, given the snapshot thew heavy gun package makes quick work of most planes. I dont use it as a furballer, but rather a hunter role. ive.found it allows me to more easily engage an enemy and dictate the fight, probably in large part due to people lacking in knowledge about the a5...its ability to offer something against almost every plane , that makes it less of a one trick pony. Firepower, speed, roll rate, and average turn.

These opinions come from only a fw months of flight in it, but in that time my k\d ratio dramatically increased and I found I seemed to fly its characteristics extremely well, rivaling my  decent abilities in a ki87

[BnZs]

See, the 190s roll rate is about the best in the game, no question...

Unfortunately, the *best* use for roll rate is in a nose-to-nose fight. And the other vital qualitys to have in a nose-to-nose fight, such as a flat scissors, is small turn radius, the ability to decelerate, and good handling slow. Qualities where the 190 is about the worst in-game.

Any number of pilots in AHII are dangerous on the defensive in Jugs and lethal in Corsairs because of the way those planes combine roll rate, slow speed handling, and a good punch. Alas, the 190s just don't have it in them.

[ink]

190's are meat on the table...or running away to friends or ACK....used how they were intended they excel greatly, but to try to fight someone who knows how to fight, its a losing battle.

[AAJagerX]

190's are meat on the table...or running away to friends or ACK....used how they were intended they excel greatly, but to try to fight someone who knows how to fight, its a losing battle.

Dunno, I've seen Kappa do some wicked stuff in an A-5.

[JOACH1M]

Joachim: ok you killed a newb or a poor pilot, but with equal pilots, your 190 will never turn with anything better than a D-stang. Maybe if there are a larger difference between the opponents skill, the A-5 may hold its own against a Jak, C205 or a K-4, but those stupid auto-retracting flaps pretty much limit the overshooting/stallfighting ability.
Ace: i agree, having a wingman can be real nice, the 190s are designed to be effective in a group vs group fight.
Condor: dont feed false illusions, the a5s turn rate wont save the world, but it can keep up with anything for 1-2 turns, force a snapshot then disengage, reset the fight and repeat it again : )

Ill take this as compliment, it was grizz in a p38j and he had alt. On me