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panther vs king tiger
« on: July 20, 2011, 07:18:09 PM »
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Re: panther vs king tiger
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2011, 07:36:39 PM »
panther if he can get behind the tiger
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Re: panther vs king tiger
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2011, 07:38:52 PM »
Panther is smaller, faster, more agile and likely has a faster turret traverse.  Tiger II has a better gun and better armor.

I'd bet on the Tiger II in most AH2 style engagements.
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2011, 07:40:55 PM »
I'd say they will rarely meet each other.
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2011, 07:41:44 PM »
For the GV fighting i do ill pull a KT anyday when no problems are modeled in. 26mph on road (road speeds and offroad speeds aren't modeled in AH :D ), 88 L71 super gun, and armor to protect 16 shermans. The Pnzr VI and Pnzr VII are both STAND OFF weapons. Put it at the edge of a field and watch the magic happen :aok hell stick two Pnzr VI's on its flanks to cover it :ahand

Panther is smaller, faster, more agile and likely has a faster turret traverse.  Tiger II has a better gun and better armor.

I'd bet on the Tiger II in most AH2 style engagements.
not all AH2 tank fights are open plains. alot are forests with small "alleyways" in between the trees. Maneuverability here dominates any GV fight
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2011, 07:46:43 PM »
I'd say they will rarely meet each other.
Probably true due their both tank's fondness for 'friendly' concrete.
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2011, 07:54:00 PM »
Just a quick data bit: Even though the Panther V is not that rare in AH, only 1.8% of all kills by Panthers are other Panthers. That is far less than the general prevalence of the Panther would let expect us and shows that they rarely meet each other - which is a result of the fact that highly perked tanks are rarely used offensively, as spawning into enemy territory is a death sentence in the vast majority of case.
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2011, 07:55:57 PM »
It would be nice if the spawn points were marked clearly on the clipboard map and allow GVs to be "landed successfully" there.
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Re: panther vs king tiger
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2011, 08:02:34 PM »
will panther gun defeat frontal armor of KT?

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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2011, 08:09:34 PM »
It would be nice if the spawn points were marked clearly on the clipboard map and allow GVs to be "landed successfully" there.

As you can now land a gv anywhere with a little effortand spawn points have nothing to do with a successful landing, why bother?

You are really much better off with the way things are now. Imagine camping the landing point.



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« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2011, 08:17:22 PM »
As you can now land a gv anywhere with a little effortand spawn points have nothing to do with a successful landing, why bother?


Because you can land ONLY if no one is around.  In any perk plane you can hope to get home and land your scalps. When you spawn your tank to fight at an enemy base, you hardly have a chance to fight your way back home, particularly  not if you are in a perk tank. Even at remote Vbases after some time bomb loaded planes will show up, and it's not very likely you can get enough separation from chasing vehicles, which are more than just eager prevent you from getting your perks back.

And the defender can not only land his damaged Tiger on concrete any time, he may also ditch his tank when he ventured away from the base and find himself in an unfavorable situation.
All that makes attacking not very attractive, and even less attacking in a perk tank.

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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2011, 08:34:07 PM »
will panther gun defeat frontal armor of KT?

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Re: panther vs king tiger
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2011, 08:43:12 PM »
Tiger2 vs Panther I'd say tiger wins 9 times out of 10 in a fair fight.


The king tiger has sloping front armor its basically a t34-85 on steroids...but any tank with this armor can easily be killed.

Tanks biggest flaw is the "chin shot" killzone..the part where the front of the tank and the bottom meet.

The king tiger will probably have this weakness, the panther sure does



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« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2011, 08:47:54 PM »
The king tiger will probably have this weakness, the panther sure does


I think this weakness comes from the program assigning simply 0 degrees of slope to that location, which reduces the tank's armor  to it's nominal thickness (for the T-34 a mere 45mm for example).
In case of the Tiger II, that would still be 100mm at least, just like the regular Tiger I frontal armor.
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Re: panther vs king tiger
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2011, 08:50:51 PM »

I think this weakness comes from the program assigning simply 0 degrees of slope to that location, which reduces the tank's armor  to it's nominal thickness (for the T-34 a mere 45mm for example).
In case of the Tiger II, that would still be 100mm at least, just like the regular Tiger I frontal armor.


Trust me I would find it's weak spot pretty durn quick  ;)