Collision Model

[hitech]

I don't for sure.  I do find it curious though that after dozens of collisions the other guy always gets a kill on me, even if he rams into me from behind and this only started after I upgraded my system and Comcast got my connection fixed.  It was never like that before.  With my old system I was awarded the kill at least half the time.

I'm not going to argue with you but I do believe there's flaws in the system.  Whether it's coding or net lag I don't really care.  I do know that a slower system, be it the computer or connection, again I don't care which it is, benefits from the current set-up.

I do find it curious though that after dozens of collisions the other guy always gets a kill on me, even if he rams into me from behind

Again showing that you really do not understand the system, or you would realize a co collision from behind is almost impossible and hence of course some one else will be awarded the kill.

HiTech

[BaldEagl]

Again showing that you really do not understand the system, or you would realize a co collision from behind is almost impossible and hence of course some one else will be awarded the kill.

HiTech

Then tell me how it happened because it has.  I didn't think it was possible either but evidently it is.

[guncrasher]

Again showing that you really do not understand the system, or you would realize a co collision from behind is almost impossible and hence of course some one else will be awarded the kill.

HiTech

hitech we do understand the collision, we dont like it, but we do understand it.  but ramming from behind happens a lot more that we like. and normally for me, just about every collision where i see a message we both collide, I die and as I am falling i see the other plane just going with perhaps little to no damage that I can see, except for la7's those always seem to get the engine damaged just about every time.

semp

[IrishOne]

hitech we do understand the collision, we dont like it, but we do understand it.  but ramming from behind happens a lot more that we like. and normally for me, just about every collision where i see a message we both collide, I die and as I am falling i see the other plane just going with perhaps little to no damage that I can see, except for la7's those always seem to get the engine damaged just about every time.

semp

based on what you've said here it's obvious you don't have a clue how it works.    if you did, you'd know exactly why that other airplane is flying away undamaged.   there was no collision on his end.  the guy flying the other plane didn't hit you.  it may have looked like he did to you, but he didn't.  people have different connections.   it's going to happen whether you like it or not, or whether you understand it or not for that matter.

[guncrasher]

based on what you've said here it's obvious you don't have a clue how it works.    if you did, you'd know exactly why that other airplane is flying away undamaged.   there was no collision on his end.  the guy flying the other plane didn't hit you.  it may have looked like he did to you, but he didn't.  people have different connections.   it's going to happen whether you like it or not, or whether you understand it or not for that matter.

here it is again.

hitech we do understand the collision, we dont like it, but we do understand it.  but ramming from behind happens a lot more that we like. and normally for me, just about every collision where i see a message we both collide, I die and as I am falling i see the other plane just going with perhaps little to no damage that I can see, except for la7's those always seem to get the engine damaged just about every time.

semp

looks like you didnt understand my post.

semp

[IrishOne]

so you see a message.   is that your point?   he still didn't run into your plane if he flew away undamaged.

[grizz441]

hitech we do understand the collision, we dont like it, but we do understand it.  but ramming from behind happens a lot more that we like. and normally for me, just about every collision where i see a message we both collide, I die and as I am falling i see the other plane just going with perhaps little to no damage that I can see, except for la7's those always seem to get the engine damaged just about every time.
semp

Why did you let the guy ram you from behind?  You saw him coming.  

Just avoid the ram, it's that simple.  If you can't avoid the ram, then it is because you don't have a very good sense for how a fight/situation is developing and are realizing a ram is going to occur far too late.  And I know this to be true with you, because there have been countless times where you pull your Spit8 nose directly into me forcing me to break guns to avoid the ram.

[guncrasher]

so you see a message.   is that your point?   he still didn't run into your plane if he flew away undamaged.

so then the collision model is wrong as it send a message saying so and so collided with you but no collision occurred and he flew away undamaged.

semp

[guncrasher]

Why did you let the guy ram you from behind?  You saw him coming.  

Just avoid the ram, it's that simple.  If you can't avoid the ram, then it is because you don't have a very good sense for how a fight/situation is developing and are realizing a ram is going to occur far too late.  And I know this to be true with you, because there have been countless times where you pull your Spit8 nose directly into me forcing me to break guns to avoid the ram.

we are not discussing how to avoid a ram.  but what happens when for whatever reason there's a collision from behind  .



semp

[IrishOne]

so then the collision model is wrong as it send a message saying so and so collided with you but no collision occurred and he flew away undamaged.

semp

now you got it.    that is exactly what happens.    just the other day i was doing some high speed scissoring with DazyCutr.   we must have collided on his end, because when i looked back he was tumbling down in pieces.   on my end we were close, but we did not hit.   i got the collision message.   i'm pretty sure he got one too.   no damage to me whatsoever.   he died.    it is what it is, and it is not wrong.

[grizz441]

we are not discussing how to avoid a ram.  but what happens when for whatever reason there's a collision from behind  .

Well if that is the case, start posting some evidence so Hitech takes you seriously.  I've been rammed from behind on the enemies end only as often as I have been unlucky where I have been only rammed on my end.  Seems to me when you put yourself in a situation where you are in close quarters with an enemy plane, there is a lot of luck as to what actually unfolds on each respective front end.  I don't think there is any reason to believe from my experience that a plane from behind holds any sort of magical collision advantage.  

[guncrasher]

Well if that is the case, start posting some evidence so Hitech takes you seriously.  I've been rammed from behind on the enemies end only as often as I have been unlucky where I have been only rammed on my end.  Seems to me when you put yourself in a situation where you are in close quarters with an enemy plane, there is a lot of luck as to what actually unfolds on each respective front end.  I don't think there is any reason to believe from my experience that a plane from behind holds any sort of magical collision advantage.  

did your 30mm problem ever get fixed?  how long did it take?  you guys submitted lots of evidence if I remember correctly.

semp

[grizz441]

did your 30mm problem ever get fixed?  how long did it take?  you guys submitted lots of evidence if I remember correctly.

semp

Yes it did get fixed because we submitted a lot of evidence.

[guncrasher]

Yes it did get fixed because we submitted a lot of evidence.

how long did it take?


semp

[grizz441]

how long did it take?
semp

Quite a while because Hitech didn't take our grievance seriously for at least half a year.