is it now time for SP's? self propelled guns

[alpini13]

  It sure would be nice to see the M-7 priest 105mm self propelled gun or german wespe 105mm self propelled gun in the game

[MachFly]

3 threads about GVs in just over 15 minutes, nice.

Now on topic, what's the difference between a self propelled gun and a tank?

BTW I thought you did not want any more American GVs?

[1Nicolas]

+1 

[sirvlad]

Simple answer is tank has a rotating turret and a self propelled gun must turn on it`s tracks.

[SmokinLoon]

The M4/105mm would be an easy addition to AH.  The M4 chassis is already here, ditto with the correct turret.

Only the 105mm gun would need to be modeled.  Not too big of a task in comparison. 

Than again, the Su-152, M7 Priest, Wespe, Sexton, etc etc would all make good choices as well.

[icepac]

KV2

[skorpion]

The M4/105mm would be an easy addition to AH.  The M4 chassis is already here, ditto with the correct turret.

if you want the M4/105 your going to have to redo the suspension, engine, turret and add in the gun.

[stabbyy]

Now on topic, what's the difference between a self propelled gun and a tank?

theres a few differances tanks have turrets for one..also heavily(in comparission) armored and designed for frontline combat as to where a self propelled gun is support fire
tanks useally have machine guns equiped on them...i dont recall any self propelled guns that do and also some self propelled guns require time to be set up before being used...tanks are ready to go

more or less a self propelled gun is a peice of mobile artillery with no real defences and relys on others to keep it safe...and generaly avoids direct combat

tanks go out and get involved in direct combat...hold frontlines/advance ect


on a side note im possibly very wrong here... but thats at leaste the basic differances from what i can tell

[Rino]

if you want the M4/105 your going to have to redo the suspension, engine, turret and add in the gun.

     Hmmm, can you point out which tanks have their engines modeled in AH?  I haven't seen an engine yet,
but I'm barely out of my first decade here  

[skorpion]

     Hmmm, can you point out which tanks have their engines modeled in AH?  I haven't seen an engine yet,
but I'm barely out of my first decade here 

engine damage, sure you've seen that!

[MK-84]

engine damage, sure you've seen that!

I wonder if you realize that every time you make a post skorp how silly it makes you sound.  You do not need to prove to the world how ignorant you are.

[Tyrannis]

i want my 105mm sherman 

[AWwrgwy]

if you want the M4/105 your going to have to redo the suspension, engine, turret and add in the gun.

Same engine. Same suspension. Same turret as the M4 we have now. Different gun. HE, smoke, and , I think but am not sure, HEAT rounds.

A variant of the M4 Sherman was armed with the 105 mm M4 howitzer, which provided even more powerful high-explosive armament. This variant was employed in six-vehicle "Assault Gun" platoons in armored battalions to provide close fire support and smoke. The 105mm-armed variants were of limited use against enemy tanks due to the poor anti-armor performance of the howitzer, which was not intended to fight other tanks, though a High Explosive Anti-Tank (HEAT) round for the 105mm howitzer was available for self defense.

wrongway

[skorpion]

Same engine. Same suspension. Same turret as the M4 we have now. Different gun. HE, smoke, and , I think but am not sure, HEAT rounds.




wrongway

are you sure that with adding a massive gun that weighs alot more wouldnt require a new engine/suspension? the turret, maybe, but the gun could possibly go over the weight capacity that the suspension could handle.

and yes, the 105 M4 carried HEAT rounds.

[AWwrgwy]

are you sure that with adding a massive gun that weighs alot more wouldnt require a new engine/suspension? the turret, maybe, but the gun could possibly go over the weight capacity that the suspension could handle.

and yes, the 105 M4 carried HEAT rounds.

What gives you the impression that the 105 is "massive"? Have you done any research or do you figure it is so because "105" is a bigger number? Do you know what a "howitzer" is?

BTW, muzzle velocity of the 105 HEAT is about 60% of the 75 in the Sherman in game now.



wrongway