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Offline 49Jester

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PBY Please
« on: October 09, 2011, 06:47:39 PM »
Catalina, Sunderland, perhaps... we don't have any seaplanes, and it could be sort of a naval goon, troops,supplies, in the dumbed down version, but the possibillities are quite large of what could be done with it.

Maybe they could only be lifted from ports. Re-supply CV's  :rolleyes: (arcadish i know).
But I think alot of folks would like to see it.
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Re: PBY Please
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2011, 08:15:29 PM »
A lot of people think they want to see it, but if they actually did would not use it.

It would take a lot of dev time and see as close to no use as possible.  It would be a waste of dev effort when there are more useful things to do.

The only flying boat that would see much use in the MA is the H8K2 'Emily', and that one would take lots of dev time.
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Re: PBY Please
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2011, 12:07:53 AM »
I'd fly a PBY. If you could somehow score points off radar spotting/resupplying/etc I'd be flying it so often I would hit TBO once a week. Not everyone likes to light up machine guns and roll around a section of sky all day.
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2011, 12:31:20 AM »
I'd fly a PBY. If you could somehow score points off radar spotting/resupplying/etc I'd be flying it so often I would hit TBO once a week. Not everyone likes to light up machine guns and roll around a section of sky all day.
You'd fly a free kill at 180mph?

Also, it would not have an AWACS feature.
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Re: PBY Please
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2011, 12:41:47 AM »
PBY is a scout plane, that's the only thing it can really do. It's top speed is bellow 200mph. If it does get added I don't see anyone flying it, you can scout on a bomber that is faster and is capable of defending itself.
Adding PBY is not like adding any new plane. It would require new codes that would let it land on water. This requires just way too much work just to have one airplane that no one is going to fly.

Jester, you say you'd fly it and I'm sure you will. But how long do you see yourself flying a slow & defenseless plane? It will get boring sooner or later, and with this plane it won't take long.
Tell me, what would you rather do:

A. Take off on the PBY, find the enemy CV, and hopefully not get shot down because it would be very easy. Than go back to base, take a bomber and fly to the place where you saw the CV, because those two trips took you so long the CV would already be gone and you'd have to find it again. Then when you finally found it a second time you can finally destroy it. Or instead of going back to can report it's position on country channel and have someone else get all the credit for your work.
B. Take off on a bomber that is twice as fast and can actually defend itself, find the enemy CV and destroy it.

Don't know about you but I think I'd go with B.


P.S. You do realize that there is already a PBY thread on the first page of the wishlist forum, right? I know this helps me increase my post count because I can post my opinion twice, but in the future let's try to stick with one thread.  :)
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Re: PBY Please
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2011, 06:23:24 AM »
You can always find a GV fight and spot/mark enemy tanks
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Re: PBY Please
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2011, 11:47:03 AM »
You'd fly a free kill at 180mph?


You're right. Lets get rid of the goon then. Nobody flies a free kill at 200mph
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Re: PBY Please
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2011, 11:51:54 AM »
You're right. Lets get rid of the goon then. Nobody flies a free kill at 200mph

:rofl How true... I even fly it offline :D

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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2011, 12:02:14 PM »
You're right. Lets get rid of the goon then. Nobody flies a free kill at 200mph

goon goes faster than 200 and it has a purpose other than to just give a free kill.

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Re: PBY Please
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2011, 12:06:49 PM »
goon goes faster than 200 and it has a purpose other than to just give a free kill.

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Heads-up everyone! New rule! In order for a plane to be eligible in Aces High, it now has to (in addition to squad strength and used in aggression):

Fly FASTER than 200MPH INDICATED

AND

It HAS to have a purpose OTHER than to just give a free kill.

Please FWD this memo to everyone in the wishlist! Thanks!
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Re: PBY Please
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2011, 12:16:27 PM »
Heads-up everyone! New rule! In order for a plane to be eligible in Aces High, it now has to (in addition to squad strength and used in aggression):

Fly FASTER than 200MPH INDICATED

AND

It HAS to have a purpose OTHER than to just give a free kill.

Please FWD this memo to everyone in the wishlist! Thanks!

One of the requirements for a plane or vehicle to be added to AH, I would think that whether or not it was a waste of development time might be a deciding factor.  Unfortunately, the PBY would be a waste of development time as there is really no viable roll for it to perform in the game.

People keep projecting it in roles for AH that we don't even have in game like search and rescue or ASW and others project it in rolls without really understanding how the plane operated in real life such as thinking it will operate as some World War II version of a JSTAR aircraft. 

I'm all in favor of adding a plane that used empty beer bottles as a regular ordnance package for night intruder missions but not to the point were asking for such a plane would waste the dev team's time and resources.

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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2011, 12:21:12 PM »
As much as I would love to see the PBY in game (and I would), any time I look at the existing plane set I can't help but see more glaring holes than the omission of the PBY. 
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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2011, 12:24:47 PM »
One of the requirements for a plane or vehicle to be added to AH, I would think that whether or not it was a waste of development time might be a deciding factor.  Unfortunately, the PBY would be a waste of development time as there is really no viable roll for it to perform in the game.

People keep projecting it in roles for AH that we don't even have in game like search and rescue or ASW and others project it in rolls without really understanding how the plane operated in real life such as thinking it will operate as some World War II version of a JSTAR aircraft. 

I'm all in favor of adding a plane that used empty beer bottles as a regular ordnance package for night intruder missions but not to the point were asking for such a plane would waste the dev team's time and resources.

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We go find the guy who asked for the B5N, and go burn him at the stake for wasting all those precious resources :mad:

And this "time and resources"- where do you guys get your figures? Are their time and resources limited? Can they only add X amount of planes a month? Could they not pay or hire another modeler? Just some thoughts. Instead of adding one thing and one thing only I think HTC should think about the community as a whole. We want to waste our time putting around in a non-defenseless plane, who is to say I'm not going to do that all day? Just sayin.
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Re: PBY Please
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2011, 12:56:17 PM »
We want to waste our time putting around in a non-defenseless plane, who is to say I'm not going to do that all day? Just sayin.
every ww2 plane in ah except the c-47 is non-defensless...  :D
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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2011, 01:27:35 PM »
Yes their time and resources are limited. There is only so many hours in a day and I would bet their resources (such as money) are not bottomless either.

The point about the PBY (or any flying boat) is that it would take more work, and therefore, more time to deliver a usable PBY in the game; mostly because of the way our current flight models interact with water.  Weighing the larger work load that the PBY would require vs the smaller work load required by a plane that doesn't have the amphibian ability; and then throw in consideration for some very numerous and famous planes that aren't in AH yet (Ki-43, He111, etc) and you have several planes that just make more sense to include into the plane set before the PBY; regardless of what role the PBY will play once it is included.

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