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Offline stabbyy

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Re: Improve the flight model -- make it even more realistic
« Reply #60 on: October 31, 2011, 02:26:29 PM »
Your confusion stems from the fact that it's 4 planes not 2.

now I'm actually confused...



and to clear up any more confusion... its 2 planes... as in 1 going in a dive and 1 climbing 1 is doing 300-400 in the climb and the other doing 300-400 in the dive smashing together engine to engine.. currently 1 of them useally survives

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Re: Improve the flight model -- make it even more realistic
« Reply #61 on: October 31, 2011, 02:31:49 PM »
now I'm actually confused...



and to clear up any more confusion... its 2 planes... as in 1 going in a dive and 1 climbing 1 is doing 300-400 in the climb and the other doing 300-400 in the dive smashing together engine to engine.. currently 1 of them useally survives

There are two aeroplanes on your PC (yours and his)... and then there are the two aeroplanes on his PC (yours and his).... they are in different positions due to lag.... so you have to consider both planes from both perspectives and how they are in slightly different positions. :headscratch:

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http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/lag/lag.htm

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Re: Improve the flight model -- make it even more realistic
« Reply #62 on: October 31, 2011, 02:36:15 PM »
Anyways... back to the original wish....

Tweet: The flight/physics/weather model is sweet, repeat, the model is sweet... Further improvements would be neat, and quite the treat.   :aok

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Re: Improve the flight model -- make it even more realistic
« Reply #63 on: October 31, 2011, 02:53:47 PM »
There are two aeroplanes on your PC

it's airplanes, or aircraft, not "aero". You're not a Brit. The fact that you want to have Bruv's love child is creepy enough and I'm sure he appreciates you being an e-stalker, but give it a rest.

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Re: Improve the flight model -- make it even more realistic
« Reply #64 on: October 31, 2011, 03:37:22 PM »
it's airplanes, or aircraft, not "aero". You're not a Brit. The fact that you want to have Bruv's love child is creepy enough and I'm sure he appreciates you being an e-stalker, but give it a rest.



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Re: Improve the flight model -- make it even more realistic
« Reply #65 on: October 31, 2011, 05:11:11 PM »
now I'm actually confused...



and to clear up any more confusion... its 2 planes... as in 1 going in a dive and 1 climbing 1 is doing 300-400 in the climb and the other doing 300-400 in the dive smashing together engine to engine.. currently 1 of them useally survives

allow me to clear up your obvious confusion for realz.   there is the plane you are in, #1, then there is the plane you see coming at you, #2, then there is the plane the guy coming at you is actually in, #3, and then there is the plane he sees you in from his FE, #4.   its all a matter of what you both see, not just what you see.    if you hit on your end and not his you go down, he flies off.   if you hit on his end and not yours, he dies and you fly on.  if you hit on his end and yours, you both go down.    understand now?    this issue has beaten past death, its been beaten back to life and then to death again.    that's as simple as  can state it, hope the clears up your confusion.
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Re: Improve the flight model -- make it even more realistic
« Reply #66 on: October 31, 2011, 05:42:54 PM »
Add collisions with friendly planes to the game. 

Make it occur above a certain altitude, say 50 feet, so that you can taxi without worry of a collision.  But once in the air, any collision registers.

I know there would be griefers ramming friendlies just to be jerks though, so it won't happen.

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Re: Improve the flight model -- make it even more realistic
« Reply #67 on: October 31, 2011, 05:46:03 PM »
only thing we dont have for mabey SE is rain.
only a moron would use Dolby positioning in a game.
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Re: Improve the flight model -- make it even more realistic
« Reply #68 on: November 01, 2011, 08:47:37 AM »
It would be especially cool if HTC could model Midway to be more realistic, but alas he is just a cartoon pilot....
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Re: Improve the flight model -- make it even more realistic
« Reply #69 on: November 01, 2011, 10:06:19 AM »
It would be especially cool if HTC could model Midway to be more realistic, but alas he is just a cartoon pilot....
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Re: Improve the flight model -- make it even more realistic
« Reply #70 on: November 01, 2011, 11:14:31 AM »
It would be especially cool if HTC could model Midway to be more realistic, but alas he is just a cartoon pilot....
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Re: Improve the flight model -- make it even more realistic
« Reply #71 on: November 01, 2011, 03:21:56 PM »
In AH the airplanes fly entirely too smooth. There's no jump, jitter or imperfection inherit in the various planes. Not to mention, some planes seem to defy gravity and physics and it's entirely too easy to stall fight.

Try stall fighting in IL-2, a much better overall and detailed game, it's much more difficult to both recover and maintain stability in otherwise unstable airplanes at lower speeds. And the phrase 'speed is life' means a lot more in that game.

The bombers in this game are a joke, far too easy to fly and with the ability to potentially aim 6 different gun turrets in a formation on the same area is just silly. The fact is if you lost control of your giant b-17 or b-24, or tried to make some silly turn, you would fall right out of the sky. The b-24 in particular was very difficult to fly and required constant correction and attention. Not to mention they are way faster than they should be especially at lower alts.

I like Ah2, it's fun, but I'd be careful calling it a simulator, particularly if the planes aren't modeled right! It's seems like propaganda really, the axis airplanes are nerfed. The 109 could drop flaps at 300 true and it wouldn't do justice to the 190 to say it was better than the P-47. It OUTCLASSED the p-47. P-51 pilots wouldn't engage Ki-84's, they were too dangerous and at some alts was FASTER. And the German guns were not as difficult to use as they are in this game, the 30mm was only 10% slower than the .50 post-muzzle, over distance I can understand the drop but not after 200 yards. The C205 is a good plane in this game, but like the 109, 190 and some Japanese planes, isn't right. It was a monster of an airplane in real life.

All of the planes in this game after all were excellent in their own right, at least in life. Plus some of them are completely backwards in this game. The Spit16 was a high alt fighter and the clipped wings didn't allow it to turn very well. In life, the Spit14 was the better turn fighter. They're backwards. The p47 outclasses the 190 in this game. That's backwards too. And the Brewster is probably the most outrageous of them all. If it was really that good, do you think it would have been replaced by the Wildcat? Or the P40? And how is it that the P-51B's 4 .50's don't seem nearly as powerful as the Brew's?

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Re: Improve the flight model -- make it even more realistic
« Reply #72 on: November 01, 2011, 03:47:17 PM »
like engine management midway? i agree it would be cool but the game is about fighting.
only a moron would use Dolby positioning in a game.
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Re: Improve the flight model -- make it even more realistic
« Reply #73 on: November 01, 2011, 04:01:07 PM »


Try stall fighting in IL-2, a much better overall and detailed game



REALLY for real REALLY?!



dude ive been in a P51 the thing dose not bounce up and down like a jack Russel terryer like you said.
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only a moron would use Dolby positioning in a game.
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Re: Improve the flight model -- make it even more realistic
« Reply #74 on: November 01, 2011, 04:22:25 PM »
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah luftwhine!!! blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah  etc.

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edit: so its not just smileys, and to pick just one thing out of your rant, what do you think the LF in Spitfire LF Mk.IXe stands for? (being an experten you'll already know thats what our XVI actually is.)
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