Me 410 skins compendium

[oakranger]

.... unless they might add the 210 as well?... 

....but wouldn't that be redundant?

[Krusty]

Not in regards to performance... and timelines, and scenarios, etc.

It would be about as redundant as having a Bf110C-4 and a Bf110E. Kinda close, look the same, but don't quite fly the same.

EDIT: Also, lesser loadouts on the earlier model

EDIT: See my Me210 wishlist post from the other day here:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,322946.0.html

[Krusty]

Just to clarify, the 210 has a HECKuva lot less horsepower. Like what our 110C has (in that range). The 410's DB603As probably made 500-600hp (each!) more than the engines on the 210.

[Debrody]

Just for you Krusty...







and a couple more, the il-2 versions of the skins listed above, Not quite accurate, but gives you an "something like this" immersion.

Just to clarify, the 210 has a HECKuva lot less horsepower. Like what our 110C has (in that range). The 410's DB603As probably made 500-600hp (each!) more than the engines on the 210.

The hungarian built DB605As were rated to 1450-1500hp. They were built into the Me-210 Ca1-s. Never heard about DB-603s producing 2000-2100hp, in my book they could do 1850-ish.
cheers  <S>

[Krusty]

1750 hp on the DB603A.

I was comparing more to the DB601s on the Me210 which gave around 1100-1200 hp. I also read a comment that the DB605 on the 210Ca was de-rated as many foriegn license-built models were. It wasn't quite comparable to the 1.42 ata boosts on later Bf109 models and such. Off the top of my head (I could be getting this wrong) they may have been limited to 1.32 ata. One source I was reading said the end result was it wasn't too much more powerful than the 210. I had initially thought it was closer to the 410 than the 210, but after recent reading it may be the opposite side of the spectrum.

Re: pictures: Yep! I like the tri-flash on the tail, and also I like that experimental summer camo (green oversprayed). The RHAF had a bit of style!  :

[Debrody]

1750 hp on the DB603A.

Re: pictures: Yep! I like the tri-flash on the tail, and also I like that experimental summer camo (green oversprayed). The RHAF had a bit of style!  :

Then be realistic and dont try to be smarter than everyone else.
There was ONE engine factory in hungary and it produced ONE kind of aircraft engine. That was the DB-605A. The same one what got into the 109 G series, with the same 1.42 ata. Its just nonsense we were setting up an other engine production line and made worse engines only for the 210 ca...  think about it.
Note that there was a corruption on the boarder: german officers were paying boxes of french champaigne for a hungarian-built plane: they were built by experienced workers and not by slaves as their german brothers. That meant about 50-60 more horses under the hood.
I can link you the page what clearly says this, if you want. Its in hungarian, but i can try to translate it (as i can). Here it is: http://militia.hu/node/274

[Krusty]

I'm not, as you say, "trying to be smarter than everybody else"...

You have an interesting comment (and a good one!) on the DB605 also being used in Hungarian Bf109 production. I had forgotten about that, momentarily. I think you're right: it would be the same engines with the same boost.

[Debrody]

Right.
I think we can agree that the 210s with the DB-601 cant even get near the 410, with their 1250-1350ish horsepower, as standardand 601s depending on the ata they were using.
My DB-605A is about half-way, possibly it was a bit lighter than the 603A tho. If AH has g10 skins on the k4, or f6f3 skins on f6f5s, or f4fr3 skins on f4f4s etc then i think theese skins meet the criteria.
 

[Greebo]

I think you are pretty safe planning for 210 skins. Either HTC produce a 210 to go with the 410 (not likely imo) and you can do the skins for that, or they don't in which case there's no reason not to allow them on the 410.

[Tec]

Z1+10 for president!

[lyric1]

 

[Volron]

Are you going to be doing the Default on this plane Greebo?  Or has that been given to Cactus?  Either way, I'm seeing some really nice skins.

[Krusty]

I don't mean to nitpick, but those aren't skins. They are references. Artwork and photos. The skin would be the final product you use in-game.

[Greebo]

The skinner team aren't allocated skins by HTC. What happens is Superfly or Waffle will start a thread for the new ride in a private skinner team forum with a link to the 3D shape. If none of us want to do it, then they skin it themselves. The initial 3D shape they post is the minimum needed for us to start skinning, it gets reposted from time to time with additions like the cockpit interior, as well as bug fixes and shape corrections.

I don't know whether I'll be doing the default Me 410. It's not an aircraft I'm particularly desperate to do, but I will if neither Fester or Cactus want to do it. It will also depend on if any of us are already busy on another default skin at the time when the Me 410 3D shape is ready to be skinned.

[Volron]

Ah.  I was curious to what happens when it came to skinning the defaults.  Thank you.