Icon Ranges

[Lusche]

i dont think anyone will be using it much, after they get lit up by pintle guns.

 As the Storch will have the long GV icon range it shouldn't be a problem to stay out of pintle range?

[Butcher]

I admit it's highly unlikely I will use it in any "serious" way after the intital period.

I was poking at certain players who play for score, in a sense they cannot score kills in a storch so they'd never fly it.

I gotta 1 up Hooter now who killed a plane with a smoke round from a Panther, I have to do it in a storch.

[Butcher]

As the Storch will have the long GV icon range it shouldn't be a problem to stay out of pintle range?

Exactly, the same reason you won't be fly 200 feet from a wirblwind, you stay out of effective range and report where the Gv's are.

[Lusche]

A thing coming to my mind... The Ostwind could see sort of revival. A Storch can stay out of WW's effective range, but the Ostwind is a different matter. And with the Storch being that s l o w the OW could have a good chance even beyond 2 k

[Wiley]

A thing coming to my mind... The Ostwind could see sort of revival. A Storch can stay out of WW's effective range, but the Ostwind is a different matter. And with the Storch being that s l o w the OW could have a good chance even beyond 2 k

That would be an interesting side effect.  I can see that happening.

Wiley.

[ap1102]

Let me clarify my original post. It appears HTC is reducing the icon range of gvs for all other aircraft. For those who up heavy in say a p51d and either drop gvs or engage in dogfighting if a plane is sighted one aspect of your game play is going to be affected. It will be harder to spot and kill a gv from an aircraft. That was the point of my post. I apologize for using the "s" word in the same sentence. And yes I am a founding member of bomb****s R Us and it gives me no greater pleasure in the world than to drop on a gv spawn camper with lots and lots of kills. In fact I drool at the thought of doing so and i intend to do so right after I post this......

[AWwrgwy]

You can spot a gv from the air now out of icon range. What kind of vehicle, not so much. Under a tree or in a barn, you need the Line of Sight icon for it to pop.

But what about,

the Storch will benefit from a longer vehicle icon range capability making it valuable for battlefield recon and support

?

Longer icon range than now or longer icon range than the "norm" in the future?

Imagine a Storch spotting that Tiger 2 under that tree from 3k up.   

As for "score", I imagine it will score the same as dropping gv supplies from a goon or a jeep or the same as spotting gv's now. Zip.
Benefit: You can tell others where they are.
Cost: Time.

Seems reasonable.



wrongway

[Reaper90]

I can imagine the OP is upset, there goes 95% of his ability to score a kill.

[dirtdart]

I personally think the storch being smaller and slower, will be FUN flying under the trees inside of 1k of WWs.  Tank round will not go through trees, neither will WWs.  This is the sort of nice change of pace I am glad to see.  I wonder if the storch will have a rear 7.7.....? 

I wonder how it is going to be scored because of the unique "discipline" the AC fills.  It fits in none of the roles, so how would they categorize it?

[GNucks]

I wonder how it is going to be scored because of the unique "discipline" the AC fills.  It fits in none of the roles, so how would they categorize it?

I would say put it in the same class as vehicles, because that's the battlezone it'll only ever be found in. Maybe just rename that category so it indicates that it includes scout A/C as well. Maybe Support/Vehicle?

I imagine HTC will just put it in Bomber though, that's where the C-47 is and it can't kill anything at all.

[Lusche]

Let me clarify my original post. It appears HTC is reducing the icon range of gvs for all other aircraft. For those who up heavy in say a p51d and either drop gvs or engage in dogfighting if a plane is sighted one aspect of your game play is going to be affected. It will be harder to spot and kill a gv from an aircraft. That was the point of my post. I apologize for using the "s" word in the same sentence. And yes I am a founding member of bomb****s R Us and it gives me no greater pleasure in the world than to drop on a gv spawn camper with lots and lots of kills. In fact I drool at the thought of doing so and i intend to do so right after I post this......

But what I stumbled over was the term "there goes your attack scores". It doesn't make much sense because..

1. Score is always relative. Changes don't affect only you alone, but everyone else doing the same thing. If it really will be more difficult to bomb GV's, it will be for everyone else too. So your score will drop, but everyone else's will do the same. Overall effect: Negligible.
(When the old strats were removed a lot of players were laughing and predicted the downfall of 'us milkers' in terms of rank and score. Same thing: They missed the difference between 'absolute' and 'relative'... as most players do. See ENY  )

2. Bombing GV's did and does 'hurt' your attack score anyway. Not bombing GV can give you a better score!
I think I have been on the frontpage for my attack ranking more than 20 times. I hardly ever bomb GV's, in the majority of tours not even a single time ...  

[kvuo75]

As the Storch will have the long GV icon range it shouldn't be a problem to stay out of pintle range?

if they wanna drop their smoke bombs near a gv, they gonna have to get close 

[Lusche]

if they wanna drop their smoke bombs near a gv, they gonna have to get close 

good point 

[Wiley]

I would say put it in the same class as vehicles, because that's the battlezone it'll only ever be found in. Maybe just rename that category so it indicates that it includes scout A/C as well. Maybe Support/Vehicle?

I imagine HTC will just put it in Bomber though, that's where the C-47 is and it can't kill anything at all.

I'd expect it to treat it like a GV.  Everything else seems classified by the hangar it pops out of.

Still curious if it will be able to get assists or how it will get score.

Wiley.

[ARSNishi]

I can imagine the OP is upset, there goes 95% of his ability to score a kill.

^^^^this.   

 It tickles the crap out of me to see these guys whine about actually having to earn kills.