Author Topic: Collision Model Is BS  (Read 1778 times)

Offline chaser

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Collision Model Is BS
« on: February 09, 2012, 07:45:30 PM »
I've come to the conclusion that nobody actually knows how the collision model works and I have a film to back that up. For those that claim that your end has to see a collision to receive damage, that's BS.

In this film I clearly never make contact with him and receive the collision and lose a wing. Now if it had said "Geist has collided with you" I would have been fine with it, because I've always thought both should receive damage in the first place. But instead we miss on BOTH ends and I still get the "you have collided" message and I go down. He was going down anyways because I had already shot one off one of his wings off but now instead of me getting a kill on him, he gets a kill on me.  :bhead :bhead

As I said before, this wouldn't be an issue if both planes would receive damage already, I would have been completely fine with it, however this film is just to show that the collision model doesn't even work like its supposed to now.


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Re: Collision Model Is BS
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2012, 07:52:05 PM »
cut it close much?


also. i don't see a collision message.


also.. nice horde :)

I think the 110 shot your wing off.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2012, 08:00:32 PM by kvuo75 »
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Re: Collision Model Is BS
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2012, 07:55:22 PM »
at least he's provided a film to go with his whine thread, most don't

unfortunately I can't view it myself atm
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Re: Collision Model Is BS
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2012, 07:56:24 PM »
cut it close much?


also. i don't see a collision message.


also.. nice horde :)


It doesn't show up in film veiwer. The blank message that shows up in chat bar is where the collision message was.

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Re: Collision Model Is BS
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2012, 08:07:26 PM »
It doesn't show up in film veiwer. The blank message that shows up in chat bar is where the collision message was.

i'll give you benefit of doubt, because I slowed it down to .04x and watched from many views.  and didn't see a collsion..it is CLOSE, maybe 2 or 3 feet, but when I didn't notice a collision message, I just assume he was firing and scored hits, the same way you lost left elevator about a second before, and you just saw lag, which made it seem like a collision..

btw b25 vs 110 HO pass.. classy :aok
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Re: Collision Model Is BS
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2012, 08:12:16 PM »
I CALLED IT ON 200!!!!!!!!!!!!

i knew a whine thread was brewin! :aok :aok :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :bolt: :bolt: :bolt:
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Re: Collision Model Is BS
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2012, 08:16:55 PM »
i'm wondering if another "im quitting post" will soon follow  :cry  :cry  :cry  :cry
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Re: Collision Model Is BS
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2012, 08:19:06 PM »
I've come to the conclusion that nobody actually knows how the collision model works and I have a film to back that up. For those that claim that your end has to see a collision to receive damage, that's BS.


I'm sure that you're right that a lot, including yourself, have no clue as to how the collision model works.  Which is why you probably posted this but sadly it will fall on your deaf ears if we try and explain it to you as you've already made up your closed mind.

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Re: Collision Model Is BS
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2012, 08:19:58 PM »
I CALLED IT ON 200!!!!!!!!!!!!

i knew a whine thread was brewin! :aok :aok :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :bolt: :bolt: :bolt:
i'm wondering if another "im quitting post" will soon follow  :cry  :cry  :cry  :cry

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Re: Collision Model Is BS
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2012, 08:20:42 PM »
I'm sure that you're right that a lot, including yourself, have no clue as to how the collision model works.  Which is why you probably posted this but sadly it will fall on your deaf ears if we try and explain it to you as you've already made up your closed mind.

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Did you even watch the film?  :bhead If it worked like people say neither of us would have collided.

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Re: Collision Model Is BS
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2012, 08:20:55 PM »
I CALLED IT ON 200!!!!!!!!!!!!

i knew a whine thread was brewin! :aok :aok :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :bolt: :bolt: :bolt:

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Re: Collision Model Is BS
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2012, 08:23:46 PM »
Who said they have to show on film?

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Re: Collision Model Is BS
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2012, 08:33:56 PM »
Who said they have to show on film?

Why wouldn't it?

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Re: Collision Model Is BS
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2012, 08:36:25 PM »
Could the propeller arch have touched?
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Re: Collision Model Is BS
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2012, 08:40:14 PM »
Why wouldn't it?
lots of things dont display right in film viewer...

i.e CV position isnt always right in film viewer
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