Gas Price Change For You

[morfiend]

 Semp,

 I'm curious to what car in the 80's got 60 mpg?  I dont think even the VW diesels got 40 mpg back then.




   

[ScottyK]

Chevy citation, if i remember got close to 50mpg.

[Delirium]

As much as I hated being strong armed into taking a motorcycle course, I am overjoyed I have my license to ride. I went from spending $50 a week in gas to spending $5 a week in fuel.

I don't have a huge bike, it is just big enough so it doesn't feel like a palm sander on the highway but small enough that the gas savings are profound.

[CAP1]

Chevy citation, if i remember got close to 50mpg.

i do't remember a citation thaT ACTUALLY RAN.......

[pervert]

Filled the Wrangler (19 gallons) this morning for  ~ $65.

$3.87/gallon

I stuck the nozzle into my gas tank, bent over and cried "RAPE"  

If you lived in uk that would have cost you $160 still feel hard done by?

[clerick]

back in the 80's they made cars that would get over 60 mpg.  30 years later the car companies are beatching about having to  make cars that do 30 mpg.  something is really wrong here.

not to get political here.  but the price of gas has nothing to do with supply and demand or conditions in the middle east.  it has to do with people speculating in the market.  even since they let people bet on oil futures price of gas went up.  that along with oil companies spending billions of dollars to buy refineries just to shut them down a few months later.

semp

so much wrong here Semp. First of all even most motorcycles were strugleing to get that kind of mileage. The reason MPG has dropped is two fold. First, you have consumer demand for larger, thus heavier cars. Second you have government safety regulations that have forced cars to beef up. I had an Audi 4000, a midsized car from the 80's. It was smaller than a Ford Focus, a compact car, and weighed about 450 pounds less. For a modern example,look at the Fiat 500 it weighs almost 300 pounds more in the US than in the UK.

As for the speculators, I've had very cheap gas and expensive gas. It's a global market and demand is up!

[morfiend]

Chevy citation, if i remember got close to 50mpg.

 GM's first front driver,hardly it might have got 30 on a good day!  I had a 1980 750cc bike,it would barely get 45 mpg on the highway,25 to 30 if you fooled around in town.

 I was building cars in the early 80's late 70's and the VW rabbit diesel got the best mileage and it was hard pressed to get 40mpg.  Cars are far more efficient today than they have ever been,you can get a 2 liter engine that gets over 40mpg and thats gas powered.

   I get better milage from my honda SUV than I got from my accord and there's only 10 years difference from their build dates! BTW they both have same displacement engines but the SUV has AWD.


   

[CAP1]

so much wrong here Semp. First of all even most motorcycles were strugleing to get that kind of mileage. The reason MPG has dropped is two fold. First, you have consumer demand for larger, thus heavier cars. Second you have government safety regulations that have forced cars to beef up. I had an Audi 4000, a midsized car from the 80's. It was smaller than a Ford Focus, a compact car, and weighed about 450 pounds less. For a modern example,look at the Fiat 500 it weighs almost 300 pounds more in the US than in the UK.

As for the speculators, I've had very cheap gas and expensive gas. It's a global market and demand is up!

 THE thing with the "global market" excuse for gas prices.......it wasn't so till the govt started allowing it to be traded on the market. it was priced according to supply and demand here in the us.
 now that we've joined the global market, it can go up if the wrong person flicks a booger on another wrong person, and the traders panic. i mean...c'mon......iran threatens to close the straight of hormuz(i think that's the one), and gas jumps? c'on people!! they're about the size of texas......and one cv group can totally wipe out their entire military......sorry skuzzy.........

 if gas were removed from trading on the market, we would be back down to below 2/gallon in less than a year here in the us. my apologies to you guys in other countries.....but screw the global market. it's dragging us down.

[MiloMorai]

Citation is a mid size car


Sure you are not thinking of the 4 cyl, 1.6 L Chevette?

[clerick]

THE thing with the "global market" excuse for gas prices.......it wasn't so till the govt started allowing it to be traded on the market. it was priced according to supply and demand here in the us.
 now that we've joined the global market, it can go up if the wrong person flicks a booger on another wrong person, and the traders panic. i mean...c'mon......iran threatens to close the straight of hormuz(i think that's the one), and gas jumps? c'on people!! they're about the size of texas......and one cv group can totally wipe out their entire military......sorry skuzzy.........

 if gas were removed from trading on the market, we would be back down to below 2/gallon in less than a year here in the us. my apologies to you guys in other countries.....but screw the global market. it's dragging us down.

I don't totally disagree. What people are forgetting is that China is starting to consume fuel at an insane rate and will continue to do so. Don't forget to factorfor inflation, and in some areas, $2+ per gallon taxes and you have a big part of it too. So demand IS up and supply is relatively stagnant.

As for te straights of Hormuz, a full 25% of all oil goes through there. Most of it to Europe. If Iran makes good on its threat we'll be exporting  more oi to them.

[morfiend]

Citation is a mid size car
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Sure you are not thinking of the 4 cyl, 1.6 L Chevette?

 I made a mistake the citation wasnt GM's first front wheel drive,that would be the toranado!


     

[klingan]

If you lived in uk that would have cost you $160 still feel hard done by?

Yea but Americans like to whine about nothing.....


 


 

[cattb]

Semp,

 I'm curious to what car in the 80's got 60 mpg?  I dont think even the VW diesels got 40 mpg back then.




   

Izusu pickup(2 wheel drive) with 5 speed and diesel got about 40 or little better as a friend told me.(he had one) I had a Izusu diesel 4x4 with 4 speed, the milage wasn't the best.

60mph?

[bj229r]

---looks like ill be buying a chevy volt in the future... someone in MA got it to 140 MPG by extending something or whatever and its supposed to be 91mpg? i dont remember...

Volt is like $42k...the Fusion (gas-powered version of same car) is about $25k.....how long does it take to save $17k in gas, and what is the lifetime of the battery?

[matt]

Lets keep this non political.

I wasn't home for the rise in gas prices as some of you know so it was a complete shock when I first went to the pump. I was just wondering, since we have people around the world here...

What were you paying for gas a year ago for a fuel tank? What are you paying now? What type of vechicle? And where at?

In Maryland I was paying $50 for a fuel tank now its $60 for my Jeep....In New York(Where I'm stationed) it went from $55 to $70.

4.50 sdiego ca