KI-84 ? Is it Dissed?

[mtnman]

do you remember the fight we had?

think you were in 1A me in KI

Lol, to tell you the truth you're the one and only pilot who jumps to the forefront when I think about the KI-84.

Yup, I remember it!   

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Lol, to tell you the truth you're the one and only pilot who jumps to the forefront when I think about the KI-84.

Yup, I remember it!   

 

[Mitsu.]

The Ki-84's weak point is its dive speed limit around 450mph. You can't use much Es at BnZ in it.
The n1k2 and Ki-61 can dive over 500mph...

an Army's Public Data (Japan Army Aviation Pandect) shows Ki-84's dive speed limit was 750km/h (466mph).
It's simulated correctly in AH. I've heard that pilot said Ki-84 could dive ovr 800km/h though...  

[Mitsu.]

I fly a lot of planes in the set, just to keep things interesting....  But I always return the Ki84, it is the only planes that really feels right to me...  I would love it if data concerning the flap speeds couldbe found and the case made to HTC.  If the Ki84 could drop that first notch of flaps closer to 200...  Wow...

From army's data:

The speed limit by the flap angle:
 15���F270km/h (167mph)
 30���F250km/h (155mph)

[JunkyII]

Would the additional cannons be locted on the cowling or the wings?

[nrshida]

Would the additional cannons be locted on the cowling or the wings?

They replace the cowl-mounted 12.7s Junky.

The 30-mm was field tested in as perhaps as few as three aircraft, based on the Otsu (normally 4 x Ho-5 20-mm) but with the left wing weapon removed completely and the right one replaced with the 30-mm. Thus one 30-mm per Hayate. I know a lot of books state 2 x 30-mm but this is incorrect as later research revealed.

This was intended to become the standard anti-bomber armament but was still in development (hence one fitted per aircraft) and the end of the war came before they entered production. The ballistics almost matched the Ho-5 20-mm.

There were also other prototypes, one with a fifth oblique firing 'Jazz Music' Ho-5 installation.

From army's data:

The speed limit by the flap angle:
 15���F270km/h (167mph)
 30���F250km/h (155mph)

These figures already disagree with those used in Aces High.

[JunkyII]

They replace the cowl-mounted 12.7s Junky.

Those are going to be crazy deadly at close range

[nrshida]

The Ho-5 20-mm is still doing Mach 1.0 at 550 Metres (at sea level).

[TWCDemon]

The Ki-84 is one of the best planes in Aces High....it turns tight and can be pushed to 453mph (fastest I've gotten it in a dive),has one of the best climb rates...better than any Me-109 or P-51, from 100 mph at sea level it only takes about 42-43 seconds to reach 300 mph, and with little more than cutting off your engine and a few quick rudder kicks, can slow down from 425mph to little over 200mph in under 3-4 seconds, allowing to to go from a flat out dive about to over shoot to 400 or less off your 6:00 and ripping you to pieces with its wing mounted 20mm auto-cannons... truly an amazing fighter when in good hands..

[titanic3]

The Ki-84 is one of the best planes in Aces High....it turns tight and can be pushed to 453mph (fastest I've gotten it in a dive),has one of the best climb rates...better than any Me-109 or P-51, from 100 mph at sea level it only takes about 42-43 seconds to reach 300 mph, and with little more than cutting off your engine and a few quick rudder kicks, can slow down from 425mph to little over 200mph in under 3-4 seconds, allowing to to go from a flat out dive about to over shoot to 400 or less off your 6:00 and ripping you to pieces with its wing mounted 20mm auto-cannons... truly an amazing fighter when in good hands..

 

[Lusche]

,has one of the best climb rates...better than any Me-109 or P-51

I don't know why you are mentiong the 109 and the 51 in the same context, as the late 109's have a stellar climb rate and the P-51 only a mediocre one.
On top of that, you may try to check again the climb rate comparison between the 109G-14 and K-4 and the Ki- 84

[Spikes]

Was the Ki-84 a 150rpg setup even with the 4x 20mms? Or did it use a reduced RPG setup?

[nrshida]

The Ki-84 is one of the best planes in Aces High....it turns tight and can be pushed to 453mph (fastest I've gotten it in a dive),has one of the best climb rates...better than any Me-109 or P-51, from 100 mph at sea level it only takes about 42-43 seconds to reach 300 mph, and with little more than cutting off your engine and a few quick rudder kicks, can slow down from 425mph to little over 200mph in under 3-4 seconds, allowing to to go from a flat out dive about to over shoot to 400 or less off your 6:00 and ripping you to pieces with its wing mounted 20mm auto-cannons... truly an amazing fighter when in good hands..

Sounds great, maybe I should give it a try 

[Butcher]

Was the Ki-84 a 150rpg setup even with the 4x 20mms? Or did it use a reduced RPG setup?

I believe so, 150rpg for all 4x 20mm cannons.
I know of one pilot who only carried 100 rounds in the wings to save weight, however I believe its 150rpg.
Much as I would love to see the Otsu- it would certainly be perked kind of like an F4u-1D vs F4u-1C, if not it would be extremely low eny (5) or even perked 5-10.

[Karnak]

I believe so, 150rpg for all 4x 20mm cannons.
I know of one pilot who only carried 100 rounds in the wings to save weight, however I believe its 150rpg.
Much as I would love to see the Otsu- it would certainly be perked kind of like an F4u-1D vs F4u-1C, if not it would be extremely low eny (5) or even perked 5-10.

Nothing wrong with having a perked Japanese fighter.