KI-84 ? Is it Dissed?

[Butcher]

Nothing wrong with having a perked Japanese fighter.

I have photos of it in operational status, I was kinda against it before hand due to being unable to find operational information on it - but more I checked more I see it was put in defense against B-29 raids in manchuria.

I'd vote on it for sure now, a Perked japanese plane would go along way - considering americans/germans have the only perked aircraft.

Much as I love the Ki-84, I'd never fly anything other then Otsu if it came out

[Karnak]

considering americans/germans have the only perked aircraft.

Mosquito Mk XVI, Spitfire Mk XIV and Tempest Mk V...

[Ruah]

I love the KI, and an Otsu would be a great fighter for sure.

It just can't push initiative and that sometimes gets really really annoying when if you are in a K4 or Dora or Tempest or U4 you can control a fight better.  The otsu will suffer from the same drawback. . . and really. . . the 20mms on the Ib is already a saw, I never feel like I need more firepower (more bullets sometimes?)

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I love the KI, and an Otsu would be a great fighter for sure.

It just can't push initiative and that sometimes gets really really annoying when if you are in a K4 or Dora or Tempest or U4 you can control a fight better.  The otsu will suffer from the same drawback. . . and really. . . the 20mms on the Ib is already a saw, I never feel like I need more firepower (more bullets sometimes?)

I disagree....the snap shot potential would be a huge difference with the 4 20's.....a massive difference......I would fly nothing else...it would be the best gang killer...the whines would be worse then the 16-51-typh combined. 

[JUGgler]

From army's data:

The speed limit by the flap angle:
 15���F270km/h (167mph)
 30���F250km/h (155mph)

If you're still fighting the KI84 when he is able to deploy flaps, then you have done extremely well for yourself, but sadly you are about to  DIE!


Easily in the top 5 of planes in AH for the MA environment, possibly the top 3!



JUGgler

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If you're still fighting the KI84 when he is able to deploy flaps, then you have done extremely well for yourself, but sadly you are about to  DIE!


Easily in the top 5 of planes in AH for the MA environment, possibly the top 3!



JUGgler

absolutely...if we are talking about actually fighting...which I know you are.

[Ruah]

after the U4 and LA7 yah. . .

[Slash27]

Sounds great, maybe I should give it a try 

[Debrody]

I disagree....the snap shot potential would be a huge difference with the 4 20's.....a massive difference......I would fly nothing else...it would be the best gang killer...the whines would be worse then the 16-51-typh combined. 

Ya that would be a riot to fly that aircraft into a horde. The only problem, with its parameters (not quite slow, good turning, great roll rate, amazing guns, climbs well too), it could attract the gang-sters as well.

[nrshida]

I would love the Otsu for what Ink said but Debrody's probably right about what would happen in the MA, especially if they decided to perk it.

Like I've said before, it would be fairly straightforward for HTC to split the current Hayate into three models which all saw widespread service. Each would have its own unique characteristics just like the Corsairs.

I'm rather hopeful that the pilots manual when translated will reveal something interesting about the flaps. One of the bibles on the Hayate discusses a third flap setting and the speeds in Aces High don't agree with Mitsu San's data.

[Slade]

We of course have the CHog for slicing through a horde with 4 x 20mm.

Still, big fan of new planes. +1

[Slash27]

I believe so, 150rpg for all 4x 20mm cannons.
I know of one pilot who only carried 100 rounds in the wings to save weight, however I believe its 150rpg.
Much as I would love to see the Otsu- it would certainly be perked kind of like an F4u-1D vs F4u-1C, if not it would be extremely low eny (5) or even perked 5-10.

We perking the N1K while we are at it?

[Butcher]

We perking the N1K while we are at it?

Only thing the N1k has on a Ki-84 is turn radius with flaps down - otherwise between 10-20k the Ki-84 simply out climbs and out runs it. This is without the gun package of the Otsu which needs to be factored.

If not perked it would be 5eny? Secondly the Ki-84 comes with Ho-5's far better cannons then the N1k.

[nrshida]

Otsu (4 cannon) is slightly lighter than the Ko (AH's Ki-84) Butcher 

[HighTone]

Only thing the N1k has on a Ki-84 is turn radius with flaps down - otherwise between 10-20k the Ki-84 simply out climbs and out runs it. This is without the gun package of the Otsu which needs to be factored.

If not perked it would be 5eny? Secondly the Ki-84 comes with Ho-5's far better cannons then the N1k.

The N1K also handles better at higher speeds in the dive. And I will agree that I like the Ho-5's better than the Type 99's, but round for round the Type 99's hit a bit harder. But I'll take the Ho-5's first any day.