KI-84 ? Is it Dissed?

[Rich52]

With about 10,000 LWA K/Ds its in the mid average usage category of fighter. Heck the Zero has about the same, the K4 more, Spits far more, the Niki twice as much. The run-90, 51D, LA7? forgetaboutit. Isnt the KI-84 a truly elite fighter and shouldnt it be expected to be used more then it is?

[Noir]

its not sexy and will loose a cannon all the time!

[Rich52]

its not sexy and will loose a cannon all the time!

A Spit16 with a Rising sun on it, at perk X 4, loaded with ammo and range, along with 2 500lb class bombs, sounds "sexy" to me.

[titanic3]

Doesn't receive the attention it should, same goes for Yak9U, La-5, 190A5 and P47D11. All underestimated planes. It's one of the best, kinda like a Jap Spit16.

Well flown Ki84s make people cry.

[Noir]

A Spit16 with a Rising sun on it, at perk X 4, loaded with ammo and range, along with 2 500lb class bombs, sounds "sexy" to me.

the 3D model looks bad, the cockpit especially. and it will loose the wing tips if too much G's are pulled. But it is indeed a good plane!

[Debrody]

In close combat, tight rolling scissors, the ki84 can spank everything.
When its forced to close the flaps, its an easy prede.

Has major strenghts also major weaknesses, but with an experienced pilot, it can dominate just like anything.

[ACE]

Has major strenghts also major weaknesses, but with an experienced pilot, it can dominate just like anything.

I like that sentence

[PFactorDave]

It doesn't dive like a pony/190/LA/Spit, so it is harder to come into a fight 10k above everyone else and pick the planes below from relative safety. 

I love it.  If more people would fly it, we would have more low alt turny turny fights and less diving from the stratosphere pickfests.

[ink]

Love the KI...think I have about 5000 killz in it,  in a year and a half of flying it


it can do it all....the only thing it lacks is high speed running capabilities,  maybe that's why it is not used as much, people just cant run away in it, although for me after flying the hurri2C for years it seems very fast

[Ack-Ack]

If it was modeled using US 100 octane fuel like it did in the US tests, it would be a very, very popular plane.  Right up there with the P-51D but sadly, it's hampered by the Japanese fuel it used and it really did have a negative impact on the performance of the Ki-84.

These are the results of the flights from the Ki-84 tested at Wright Field.

Maximum speed:
363 mph at sea level
427 mph at 20,000 ft
360 mph at 35,000 ft

Cruise speed:
254 mph at 1,500 ft

Climb rate:
4,275 ft/min

Ceiling:
38,000 ft

Normal range (internal fuel 184 US gallons):
780 m at 254 mph

Maximum range (plus 174 US gallons additional fuel):
1,845 m at 173 mph.

ack-ack

[ink]

If it was modeled using US 100 octane fuel like it did in the US tests, it would be a very, very popular plane.  Right up there with the P-51D but sadly, it's hampered by the Japanese fuel it used and it really did have a negative impact on the performance of the Ki-84.

These are the results of the flights from the Ki-84 tested at Wright Field.

Maximum speed:
363 mph at sea level
427 mph at 20,000 ft
360 mph at 35,000 ft

Cruise speed:
254 mph at 1,500 ft

Climb rate:
4,275 ft/min

Ceiling:
38,000 ft

Normal range (internal fuel 184 US gallons):
780 m at 254 mph

Maximum range (plus 174 US gallons additional fuel):
1,845 m at 173 mph.

ack-ack

I thought they didn't model the poor fuel into it

[PR3D4TOR]

The 109K is also modeled with the B4 fuel it mostly used in R/L rather than the C3 (150 octane equivalent) it was meant to use (for 400 more hp).

[Debrody]

The 109K is also modeled with the B4 fuel it mostly used in R/L rather than the C3 (150 octane equivalent) it was meant to use (for 400 more hp).

I got reports about Italians (!) using C3 in their K4s in very early '45.

[Krusty]

I thought they didn't model the poor fuel into it

They model it based on war-time accurate performance, not post-war super-fuel. The Japanese didn't have that kind of fuel.

[Karnak]

The 109K is also modeled with the B4 fuel it mostly used in R/L rather than the C3 (150 octane equivalent) it was meant to use (for 400 more hp).

Just as the P-51D, Spitfires XIV and XVI, Tempest and Mosquito Mk VI are not modeled with 150 octane.  The Axis is not singled out in not getting the best fuel.