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Offline Tank-Ace

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Re: Bf-109 Training?
« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2012, 06:44:43 PM »
And you miss the point I was trying to make. Not too suprising though.

no complete different torque.
similar tactics though, and thats important when trying to describe how a plane flys.

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you can't say a p51 is a spit8 that turns worse.
completly irrelevent, I never said you could.

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p47's can turn fairly well! Can't just dump your speed down below 200
Again, I never said it couldn't. I said it won't want to, which is true. Turning naturally bleeds energy in the form of speed. The P-47 will have to kill an oponent he turns with fairly quickly, or become disadvantaged.
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Re: Bf-109 Training?
« Reply #31 on: May 06, 2012, 06:49:38 PM »
And you miss the point I was trying to make. Not too suprising though.
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Re: Bf-109 Training?
« Reply #32 on: May 10, 2012, 11:05:44 PM »
Several of you missed the point,Hawkeye and I didnt spend much time on anything to do with the 109's. Yes there are several things I could have shown him specific to the 109's but I thought it would be more useful to work on merging and a few simple reversals/defencive moves.

   I'm sure he understands that each and every plane is slightly different but that doesnt mean much when you havent got the basics down.Once he has some practice with that,then I'd move on to plane specific work.

   Unfortunately this takes more than 1 session and I dont like to spend more than an hour at a time because it's too much to process and after an hour I'm about wore out!


  I think this is a case of reading into things too much,both Hawkeye and I know what we covered and it had little to do with 109's in particular.



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Re: Bf-109 Training?
« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2012, 02:46:24 PM »
Thanks for the training films Agent, <S>.

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Re: Bf-109 Training?
« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2012, 10:20:49 AM »
 I sure wish Agent360s films were on YouTube since my Windows media player will not run the format in many of the films posted including Agent360s. He does have a nice write up about flying the 109 that can be printed and is loaded with great information on the 109.

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Re: Bf-109 Training?
« Reply #35 on: May 28, 2012, 10:43:30 AM »
you need to use the Aces High film viewer to view the films. In your aces High folder will be ahfilm.exe file. Double click the film file, use the "browse" button to browse to the ahfilm.exe file and check the box to use the file for the association. This way everytime you double click an Aces High film the veiwer will load automatically and play the film.

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Re: Bf-109 Training?
« Reply #36 on: May 28, 2012, 11:29:54 AM »
Honestly my choice of 109 differs from other people(s). I'm probably the only person out of three that like the 109G2. What I don't understand is why they go with the G-14 and G-6, the G-2 easily beats those planes in the low battles. It's very good, it climbs well, dives well, it's quick, and can turn on a Spitfire at times. What I don't like about it though is that the wheel base is small, I'm used to it being wider on the Jug.

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Re: Bf-109 Training?
« Reply #37 on: May 28, 2012, 11:41:36 AM »
I'm with you on that one metal. I much prefer the G2 over the G6 and the G14. In fact, those are the ONLY two 109's not in my favorites list.
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Re: Bf-109 Training?
« Reply #38 on: May 28, 2012, 11:43:53 AM »

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Re: Bf-109 Training?
« Reply #39 on: May 29, 2012, 09:46:32 AM »
Hmm I prefer the G6 over G2 for the 13mms. That way I don't have to waste cannon ammo on targets that I've saddled. Otherwise, I can't really tell the difference between the two. Tried both for a day, G6's 13mms helps to save those precious cannon rounds for more meaty targets.

I almost broke your 10 kills/1 sortie Debrody! No gondies too! Got to 9 before running outta ammo in tank town (no Bnzing either! :P), next time I see ya we'll have to wing up and I'll have to try again.

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Re: Bf-109 Training?
« Reply #40 on: May 29, 2012, 09:49:08 AM »
Hmm I prefer the G6 over G2 for the 13mms. That way I don't have to waste cannon ammo on targets that I've saddled. Otherwise, I can't really tell the difference between the two. Tried both for a day, G6's 13mms helps to save those precious cannon rounds for more meaty targets.

I almost broke your 10 kills/1 sortie Debrody! No gondies too! Got to 9 before running outta ammo in tank town (no Bnzing either! :P), next time I see ya we'll have to wing up and I'll have to try again.

I started out with the G2 and upgraded to G6 then G14, for clear reasons - I like the 20mm and the faster 109 to catch runners, if the G10 ever comes back into play it would be a nice addition.

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Re: Bf-109 Training?
« Reply #41 on: May 29, 2012, 10:00:03 AM »
My only add to this thread is make the distinction between 1v1 and squad ops. Two different styles.

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Re: Bf-109 Training?
« Reply #42 on: May 29, 2012, 02:50:58 PM »
My only add to this thread is make the distinction between 1v1 and squad ops. Two different styles.

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wannna get good in the 109, go and find people to duel... weather your in a squad or by yourself, it the repetitive practice makes a huge difference. Exclusively stick to it for 4 or 5 mo, then you will get good, if you bounce around trying different planes, your 'muscle memory' will be off and you wont be able to take the plane to its edge.
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Re: Bf-109 Training?
« Reply #43 on: May 29, 2012, 04:56:29 PM »
I almost broke your 10 kills/1 sortie Debrody! No gondies too! Got to 9 before running outta ammo in tank town (no Bnzing either! :P), next time I see ya we'll have to wing up and I'll have to try again.
Hehe, GJ dude! Honestly i cant really remember getting 10 without rearming, did 9 a couple times tho, and yea, only was jumping some of them from above... i cant beat 10 spits/f4us in equal duel situations.
Aye, would be fun to wing up... if i come back once, hehe...  I was a pretty poor wingman tho, always died, also got lingual difficulties...
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Re: Bf-109 Training?
« Reply #44 on: May 29, 2012, 05:28:34 PM »
Hehe, GJ dude! Honestly i cant really remember getting 10 without rearming, did 9 a couple times tho, and yea, only was jumping some of them from above... i cant beat 10 spits/f4us in equal duel situations.
Aye, would be fun to wing up... if i come back once, hehe...  I was a pretty poor wingman tho, always died, also got lingual difficulties...
Til then, GL
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Hmm, 2 or 3 were bombers, the rest were mostly Jabos so I kinda cheated too.  :D

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