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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #105 on: May 10, 2012, 11:53:40 AM »
Looking at the diagrams, are you sure it is 12 rounds per gun? To me it looks like the tray can only fit 6 and then it has a balance weight(?) on the other side. The difference in their shape is most visible in the front and back drawings of the gun.
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #106 on: May 10, 2012, 11:56:08 AM »
Looking at the diagrams, are you sure it is 12 rounds per gun? To me it looks like the tray can only fit 6 and then it has a balance weight(?) on the other side. The difference in their shape is most visible in the front and back drawings of the gun.


Two trays with 6 rounds each.

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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #107 on: May 10, 2012, 12:04:09 PM »
ahh, they are loaded on top of each other. Hadn't noticed there was room for that.
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #108 on: May 10, 2012, 12:17:49 PM »
great new about the stuka  :rock do HTC update a plane/s in all its update  releases.

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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #109 on: May 10, 2012, 01:09:25 PM »
 :rofl   Didn't take long for the F3 IL-2 issue to rear its head.  Missed much?

Im really curious about the new D-model Stuka, might have some really attractive loadout options.
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #110 on: May 10, 2012, 03:04:04 PM »
Without big instant 1-shot guns, F3 isn't an issue. However, now I can see it will be abused the same way the IL2 was. With the BK guns it stands to reason that variant will lose F3. Perhaps the "vanilla" (7mm) version will retain F3.

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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #111 on: May 10, 2012, 03:11:26 PM »
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Offline Rich52

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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #112 on: May 10, 2012, 03:16:08 PM »
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As for the new Stuka and F3, wait and see.


Yeah, wait and see if my tank keeps getting killed by it. :lol

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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #113 on: May 10, 2012, 03:19:31 PM »
There is a HUGE difference between the Ju-87 with the BK 37's and the Il-2 with it's NS-37's....ammo.  12 RPG vs 50 RPG.  So I don't see why F3 will be removed from the 87.  If it had 50 RPG like the Il-2, then it would probably get it removed.  Personally, doesn't matter to me one way or the other. :aok
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #114 on: May 10, 2012, 03:23:10 PM »
There is a HUGE difference between the Ju-87 with the BK 37's and the Il-2 with it's NS-37's....ammo.  12 RPG vs 50 RPG.

No, no difference. Same gun lethality, same ability to use ESP to dodge and weave attacks, same ability to kill goons, bombers, even fighters with a single shot. Doesn't matter if the ammo is lower, tards will just bail and spam-spawn on the runway as soon as they run out of ammo anyways.


No difference at all. In fact even with F3 disabled the Ju may be the preferred ride. It's not as armored, true, but it has significantly better visibility with that greenhouse canopy. I think that alone will make folks use it instead of the IL2.

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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #115 on: May 10, 2012, 03:32:55 PM »
It's slower speed and lower rate of climb may be a "turn off" for a lot of folks, as well as it's low ammo.  The Hurri 2D can be used in this example.  It has MUCH better visibility, rate of climb and is faster, but I suspect that it doesn't get used as often as the Il-2 is due to the low amount of ammo and that it's rather fragile.  The 40mm's are quite good, even though they are inferior to the NS-37's.  Personally, I still see more Il-2's than Hurri 2D's.  Hell, I see more 25H's than Hurri 2D's, and this is with folks actually using just the gun and not taking ords. :aok  Regardless, it really wouldn't bother me if the 87 G-2 doesn't come with F3.  It just means I can't eye smex the plane while going places... :cry
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #116 on: May 10, 2012, 03:39:06 PM »
There is a HUGE difference between the Ju-87 with the BK 37's and the Il-2 with it's NS-37's....ammo.  12 RPG vs 50 RPG.  So I don't see why F3 will be removed from the 87. 

I'm not sure why some players have a hard time differentiating the differences between the planes OUTSIDE a singular category or 2.  You are basing the "need" of the Ju87 to have F3 view on the amount of ammo it carries??? 

   
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #117 on: May 10, 2012, 03:41:40 PM »
The JU87 in ground attack config shouldn't get F3. Heck, for that matter, neither should the dive bomber config, nor the A20, nor the SBD, B5N, D3A, etc etc.

A big bomber with a full crew scanning the skies in all directions? Sure, F3 is representative of the additional sets of eyes.

A dive bomber or attack planes crewed by 2 guys, including the pilot? We already can see everything the rear gunner could see by pressing the "2" key.
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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #118 on: May 10, 2012, 05:26:36 PM »


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Re: New Stuka
« Reply #119 on: May 10, 2012, 05:35:05 PM »
The JU87 in ground attack config shouldn't get F3. Heck, for that matter, neither should the dive bomber config, nor the A20, nor the SBD, B5N, D3A, etc

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