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Re: 11.81@121mph
« Reply #135 on: May 30, 2012, 10:26:39 PM »
That is the way I have done for years. Just as long as you know the lifters are all good. :)

 yea, i've been lucky enough to never run into a bad one.  i was just out in my garage, and for the helluva it i looked on the shelf....i still have those cut valve covers.
 what i had done, was to cut a slot wide enough to allow me access to the rocker nuts, but it still covered the pushrod and the valve end of the rockers, so when i had the engine running to do this, i didn't spray oil all over the place.
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« Reply #136 on: May 30, 2012, 10:27:56 PM »
I had a nicely built 289 in my 67 mustang.

 many moons ago, there was a guy running at atco with a 289 in a 66 fastback. he was running mid 9's, but mannnnn was he pushing that dam thing. i think he was running 5.14s, and the dam thing was screaming for mercy going through the traps........
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Re: 11.81@121mph
« Reply #137 on: May 30, 2012, 11:09:00 PM »
OK, how do you post pics on here. Went it comes to computer stuff I as dumb as you can get lol. Just haven't learnedto much about computers. I want to put my pics of the work I've done so far (paint and airbrush work), I wont start the engine swap till next summer, alot of planning to do there!!! :salute
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Re: 11.81@121mph
« Reply #138 on: May 30, 2012, 11:43:19 PM »
Man Cap .. runnin hydrastic lifters .. half turn after the noise stops ..slowly.

Been awhile since I have done that ..with the cutout valve covers an all :)

Also get a huge kick outta watchin any of the reality motor rebuild hot rod shops when they do a first fire-up of a motor they put together.
Pops up thru the carb an these rocket scientists have to edit out the hour or so it took 'em to figure out the distributor was 180 out.

LOL.

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Re: 11.81@121mph
« Reply #139 on: May 30, 2012, 11:53:34 PM »
Man Cap .. runnin hydrastic lifters .. half turn after the noise stops ..slowly.

Been awhile since I have done that ..with the cutout valve covers an all :)

Also get a huge kick outta watchin any of the reality motor rebuild hot rod shops when they do a first fire-up of a motor they put together.
Pops up thru the carb an these rocket scientists have to edit out the hour or so it took 'em to figure out the distributor was 180 out.

LOL.

-Frank aka GE

180 or way slow.
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Re: 11.81@121mph
« Reply #140 on: May 30, 2012, 11:55:17 PM »
OK, how do you post pics on here. Went it comes to computer stuff I as dumb as you can get lol. Just haven't learnedto much about computers. I want to put my pics of the work I've done so far (paint and airbrush work), I wont start the engine swap till next summer, alot of planning to do there!!! :salute

Setup a free account at somewhere like photobucket. Then link the pictures here.

When you see your pic on photobucket under it you'll see the image link. Copy it and paste it in your post.
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Re: 11.81@121mph
« Reply #141 on: May 31, 2012, 07:47:24 AM »
OK, how do you post pics on here. Went it comes to computer stuff I as dumb as you can get lol. Just haven't learnedto much about computers. I want to put my pics of the work I've done so far (paint and airbrush work), I wont start the engine swap till next summer, alot of planning to do there!!! :salute

 i've been using flicker, because it seems that for about the last year or so, photobucket bogs down my computers.
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Re: 11.81@121mph
« Reply #142 on: May 31, 2012, 10:34:18 AM »
Do you guys know why you set hydraulic lifters they way you described?

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« Reply #143 on: May 31, 2012, 11:09:25 AM »
Thanks guys, I'll try them!!! :salute
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« Reply #144 on: May 31, 2012, 12:45:43 PM »
Do you guys know why you set hydraulic lifters they way you described?

Since they pump up it is not as critical as solids.
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Re: 11.81@121mph
« Reply #145 on: May 31, 2012, 01:32:15 PM »
Since they pump up it is not as critical as solids.

 if i recall(remember, it's been a looonnnnnnggggg time for me),  it's pre-loading the lifter itself. solid lifters, you had to leave lash, unless you enjoyed replacing pushrods, or worse.
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« Reply #146 on: May 31, 2012, 03:25:49 PM »
It's to combat damage incurred when the valves get floated.

Lifters feel the play that has been introduced by valve float and adjust accordingly.

A valve may contact a piston top, a retainer might bottom on a valve stem seal, you might run out of slot length of rocker arm, or one of the springs stacks solid..........or you might lucky and experience it without anything breaking.

If you've ever seen someone overrev any 60s/70/80s small block and the engine stalls immediately after or runs missing on multiple cylinders like it's blown up..........but magically repairs itself after a minute or so, then you've seen someone experience lifter pump-up without incurring damage.

The reason you loosen them until they make noise and tighten them a specified amount, is to keep the lifters at the uppermost of thier adjustment range so they can only adjust up a very small amount.

The manufacturers are also assuming you adjust the valves at the published intervals to keep the noise down.

I've seen lifters that have a 3/16 inch range of adjustment capability.

Newer cars have rev limiters built into thier engine management so manufacturers are going back toward lifters nearly fully compressed to keep that service interval to just about never.........except lexus who screwed up and had to replace all lifters and valve springs in about 40% of the fleet sold from 2006 to 2011.

Lexus was using lifters near the bottom of thier adjustment but they had an issue with the valve springs weakening and allowing them to float below the rev limiter rpm for the cutoff.

They could have just sent out a new flash calibration for the ecus to lower the rev limiter 500rpms but decided that guaranteeing thier claimed horsepower important enough to replace all the valve springs and lifters.

Lexus claimed it was only the valve springs but I did compare the both upgraded and original lifters and found the upgraded lifters had much less range to take up slack.

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Re: 11.81@121mph
« Reply #147 on: May 31, 2012, 03:48:04 PM »
yea.....pre-load. that's what keeps them from doing bad things.


 that said........2013 gt500 just went 10.02@141mph.
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Re: 11.81@121mph
« Reply #148 on: May 31, 2012, 04:11:12 PM »
that said........2013 gt500 just went 10.02@141mph.

:x Nice! Now lets see it on a track. :D

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« Reply #149 on: May 31, 2012, 04:26:52 PM »
:x Nice! Now lets see it on a track. :D

 ford's got one over at the 'ring right now. someone over on ls1 said they heard that someone timed it at 7:31 and 7:35. it would make sense really, 'cause it doesn't HAVE to be fabulous in the corners. it only needs to be kinda good. comin' out, it'll rape the blacktop, and hit crazy speeds on the straight runs.
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