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Offline jimson

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #105 on: May 30, 2012, 08:33:50 PM »
HoTARDS are the same as  the coaches of of my sons' football teams who would teach that "if you don't get caught breaking the rules, you haven't broken the rules", to win at all costs. This ISN'T real life, it's a game of talent and skill, of which HoTARDS have absolutely none. In real life, they take the easy way out, bragging about their "success". They're the Mitt Romneys of the world, often bullies, ALWAYS displaying a lack of ethics.
Often narcissistic, they laud their "skills"(non-existant) and the dubious "fact" that they PWNed their opponent. HoTards are the ones that clog the chat channels with their self aggrandizement serving NO purpose in the game but to annoy those who actually have skill and talent.

Well, you lost my respect worse than if you'd ho'd, using this as an opportunity to slip in a political cheap shot.
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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #106 on: May 30, 2012, 08:47:37 PM »
We need to get some of the CM team, and perhaps Hitech himself in on this.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #107 on: May 30, 2012, 09:20:07 PM »
Bah, don't HO.  Play chess, not checkers. 
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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #108 on: May 30, 2012, 09:49:42 PM »
2000 hours becomeing a master DA ACM practitoner whom all fear and respect.

3 years playing the game building name recognition for your mastery of a Cartoon World.

Known for landing on average 5 kills per non-rearmed sortie in the meat grinder of the LWMA becasue of your skillz even on a slow night.

10 minutes spent flying to a fight so once again to show a hoard of lesser players your mastery in the Air to Air arts of a Cartoon World. A two week noob HO's you on your first pass 10 minutes and 59 seconds after takoff and you are back in the tower receiving a PM from an unknown nobody noob:

"Learn how to fight you noob!"

Next day you come into this forum to grouse to your Mighty ACM Bretheren becasue you let a noob HO you, the master of ACM.

I'd say that's Pricless.
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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #109 on: May 30, 2012, 09:54:43 PM »
Honestly, I think a HO just says you really don't care about the fight, and REALLY don't care about how good you are.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #110 on: May 31, 2012, 12:16:43 AM »
They are fighting.

They just don't care about all the time you've personaly invested to becoming better than them. Along with your all consuming need to show them that if they would just let you by not HOing. Why let you kill their fun if they can put you out of their misery in one move? They resonably know that you are probably better than them by observing how you fly.

Answering with the altruism about it being to promote some ideal of a better AH is a canard to hide that you simply want them to die like the noobs they are to your awsum skillz. HOing you and winning is like coitus intteruptus when you are realy saddeled in. Just sucks beyond belief. Then you come in here and whine.

Why are they supposd to simply feed themselves futily to you all night long? When did their $14.95 become less than yours? Why do you automaticly assume your time in grade and skillz grants you the right to judge them when they are paying the same entry fee to be here? HTC has no rules about how they should conduct themsleves when it comes to ACM. Show them to me if HTC has published them as part of our customer agreement.
 
You don't see them in here complaining that you die so easily to their HO?

Why are you in here complaining that they should give you a chance to show tham how good you are if you die so easily to a simple HO? Is there some more training you need to work on before passing judgement on their skillz or lack of?

Isn't this like being in a championship no holds barred cage match fight getting taken out with the first punch, then explaining to the sports reporter on live TV in front of millions you were succer punched when the bell rang?

Ding, Ding.................

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #111 on: May 31, 2012, 02:12:00 AM »
Lol bustr.  I wasn't going to sink my time into responding to the temporal black hole that is inevitably any "HO philosphy" thread, but this perspective is just that fabulous. Well put. :aok

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #112 on: May 31, 2012, 10:45:44 AM »
I don't always agree with Bustr's perspective, but that post is dead on.

I have often wondered the last little while why it is that people who take so much pride in their ACM seem to have so much trouble dealing with the HO.  The fight begins before the merge.

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #113 on: May 31, 2012, 10:49:57 AM »
Try intercepting a buff formation at 30k feet head on.

You will find it difficult to get fully HO.

It takes two to HO.

It's that simple.

When you are fighting a HO'er.......just reverse and turn on him.

If you brought a plane that doesn't out turn the non-turning planes of HO'ers, then you brough the wrong plane for the tactics........or the wrong tactics for the plane.

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #114 on: May 31, 2012, 11:09:54 AM »
The fight begins before the merge.

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #115 on: May 31, 2012, 11:20:39 AM »
Well, Jimson, not that your respect is important to me, Mitt happened to be a perfect example, not for political reasons, but for the fact that he IS a bully. To hold someone down and cut off their hair isn't a prank, it's a dastardly act. GAMES are not only or even firstly about winning, they're about sportsmanship, skill and talent, not necessarily in that order. Hoing as a primary offense shows not only a lack of skill or talent, but a total disregard for sportsmanship. I would rather lose a good fight to a skilled opponent than win one by a cheap HO. I have the respect of quite a few of the best in this game, not for my skill(or lack of it) but for my attitude and my deep regard for GOOD SPORTSMANSHIP. I don't expect respect, i do my best to earn it. So if you're a backer of the Mittster, sorry if the truth offended you. Also, I do tend to go head on at my opponent, as, IMHO, it tends to make quite a few react first, giving me an opportunity to see their maneuver and respond accordingly.
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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #116 on: May 31, 2012, 11:30:40 AM »
ew.. politics.

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #117 on: May 31, 2012, 12:00:45 PM »
Yeppers, the Politics of HO.

The Politics of the HO is to convince all new players that a game rule exists which dosen't. Then proceded to use this rule to abuse them at will within the game and in this forum before they realise, even the mightiest of the chosen fail before it's simplicity. Then when asked to produce said rule from the general conduct portion of your basic contractual information with HTC, everyone Bloviates or stands mute. There is no such beast and never has been.

From what I can remember HTC has ruled the HO is part of the game and places no stigma upon the matter.

The only stigma is from the dorks making any excuse they can to explain their lack of skill in keeping a noob from killing them by using it. So far in 13 years all this group of players have come up with is a Politicly Correct Derision Campaign to stigmatise anyone who uses the HO as a valid combat technique.

You ever notice the ones imposing rules that don't exist have the most to loose in their own self esteem?
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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #118 on: May 31, 2012, 12:03:17 PM »
It is Ridiculously easy to avoid enemy fire from a HO. Change your angle slew with your rudder and -BAM- you are now some distance of to either right or left..if u get crazy..you could nose up  and roll getting the reversal set up quickly.. :O gents..if you die in the Head On Pass its because you let that "no0b" get you

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #119 on: May 31, 2012, 12:12:51 PM »
Well, Jimson, not that your respect is important to me, Mitt happened to be a perfect example, not for political reasons, but for the fact that he IS a bully. To hold someone down and cut off their hair isn't a prank, it's a dastardly act. GAMES are not only or even firstly about winning, they're about sportsmanship, skill and talent, not necessarily in that order. Hoing as a primary offense shows not only a lack of skill or talent, but a total disregard for sportsmanship. I would rather lose a good fight to a skilled opponent than win one by a cheap HO. I have the respect of quite a few of the best in this game, not for my skill(or lack of it) but for my attitude and my deep regard for GOOD SPORTSMANSHIP. I don't expect respect, i do my best to earn it. So if you're a backer of the Mittster, sorry if the truth offended you. Also, I do tend to go head on at my opponent, as, IMHO, it tends to make quite a few react first, giving me an opportunity to see their maneuver and respond accordingly.

You see Cpprhed, there are political forums where I go to to see this sort of thing.