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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #45 on: May 29, 2012, 12:16:09 PM »
Those planes SHOULD be perked. But for some reason they aren't. They out perform every other plane in at least 1 category, with the exception of the Spit16. I dont understand why the La-7, 190D, P51D and K4 aren't perked. I'm not asking Tempest -50 perks, just 5 or even less. Theyre top of the line performers yet aren't limited whatsoever.

K4- Speed/acceleration
La-7 - Speed/Acceleration
P51- Speed/Ords
190D- Speed/Acceleration
Tempest -Speed/Acceleration
F4U4 - Everything
F4U1C - Firepower
Spit14 - Climb rate (the highest besides 163 IIRC)

With the 410, it would have the firepower that makes it eligible to be perked.
By that logic the Bf110G-2 or Mosquito Mk VI should be perked for firepower right now.  Do you see either of those needing to be perked or even set to 5 ENY?  Seriously?

You can't just pull stats like that in isolation and use them to determine if it should be perked.

Also, climb and acceleration are pretty much the same thing, though top speed affects where you see that peak acceleration.  If the Spitfire Mk XIV is the best climbing aircraft then it is also the best accelerating aircraft.
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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #46 on: May 29, 2012, 12:22:04 PM »
Unless the Me410 performs much better than I have seen indicated anywhere, the Mosquito Mk VI will be superior in terms of air-to-air capability below 13,000ft.

Does that dominate AH?  No.  There is no reason to think the Me410 will be a dominating factor.
I'm pretty sure that was his point.

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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #47 on: May 29, 2012, 12:22:53 PM »
I'm pretty sure that was his point.
I know.  I was supporting his position.
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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #48 on: May 29, 2012, 12:23:16 PM »
By that logic the Bf110G-2 or Mosquito Mk VI should be perked for firepower right now.  Do you see either of those needing to be perked or even set to 5 ENY?  Seriously?

You can't just pull stats like that in isolation and use them to determine if it should be perked.

Also, climb and acceleration are pretty much the same thing, though top speed affects where you see that peak acceleration.  If the Spitfire Mk XIV is the best climbing aircraft then it is also the best accelerating aircraft.

Those planes dont need to be perked because they do not have the speed or performance to get away from trouble. The 410 will take the #1 spot for firepower, therefore, it needs to be perked, albeit, very low.

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #49 on: May 29, 2012, 12:23:29 PM »
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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #50 on: May 29, 2012, 12:25:53 PM »
I know.  I was supporting his position.
Oh yeah? Well.......... ok then.



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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #51 on: May 29, 2012, 12:27:50 PM »
Those planes SHOULD be perked. But for some reason they aren't. They out perform every other plane in at least 1 category, with the exception of the Spit16. I dont understand why the La-7, 190D, P51D and K4 aren't perked. I'm not asking Tempest -50 perks, just 5 or even less. Theyre top of the line performers yet aren't limited whatsoever.

K4- Speed/acceleration
La-7 - Speed/Acceleration
P51- Speed/Ords
190D- Speed/Acceleration
Tempest -Speed/Acceleration
F4U4 - Everything
F4U1C - Firepower
Spit14 - Climb rate (the highest besides 163 IIRC)

With the 410, it would have the firepower that makes it eligible to be perked.

LA7s below 7k are AH's most popular UFO, right behind the Claw.  Otherwise, they're relatively harmless above 7k and you should be paying them perks for giving it to you so easy, but !@#$% do they do some stupidly impossible maneuvers on the deck (is it small and light or small and heavy with its stuby wings?  it would seem it is both at the same time).
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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #52 on: May 29, 2012, 12:28:23 PM »
Those planes SHOULD be perked. But for some reason they aren't. They out perform every other plane in at least 1 category, with the exception of the Spit16. I dont understand why the La-7, 190D, P51D and K4 aren't perked. I'm not asking Tempest -50 perks, just 5 or even less. Theyre top of the line performers yet aren't limited whatsoever.

K4- Speed/acceleration
La-7 - Speed/Acceleration
P51- Speed/Ords
190D- Speed/Acceleration
Tempest -Speed/Acceleration
F4U4 - Everything
F4U1C - Firepower
Spit14 - Climb rate (the highest besides 163 IIRC)

With the 410, it would have the firepower that makes it eligible to be perked.


The absolute top speed at alt is an overrated stat as it pertains to fighting in AH.

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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #53 on: May 29, 2012, 12:30:06 PM »
LA7s below 7k are AH's most popular UFO, right behind the Claw.  Otherwise, they're relatively harmless above 7k and you should be paying them perks for giving it to you so easy, but !@#$% do they do some stupidly impossible maneuvers on the deck (is it small and light or small and heavy with this stuby wings?  it would seem it is both at the same time).
Start a new thread about it. I'd love to hear more.

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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #54 on: May 29, 2012, 12:31:10 PM »
You travel back in time.

The super tater will give you approx 1.21 Gigawatts and once it hits 188 mph... You're gonna see some serious  :banana:
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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #56 on: May 29, 2012, 12:34:45 PM »
The Luftwaffles should stop crying for the 410 now.

Can't wait to shoot these down in the scenario (This addition may help scenario participation numbers a bit).

Hopefully the ENY is low, right around 5 or 10.
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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #57 on: May 29, 2012, 12:35:14 PM »
It's here and it's got realllly BIG GUNS.

Me410

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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #59 on: May 29, 2012, 12:36:04 PM »

The absolute top speed at alt is an overrated stat as it pertains to fighting in AH.

It's what make a fight or not at all in the first place. No matter how good you are, you're not catching an La-7 in a P40 even though you are well capable of killing the La7 "noob" in a fight.

Planes with high speeds can dictate the fight. Which is why I don't understand why they aren't perked. I would understand if the 410 isn't perked due to it's massive firepower because it'll never have the speed to use it on the top tier planes (though I still think it should be perked). I WOULDN'T understand why a plane like the La-7 or 190D isn't perked. They have the speed to catch or outrun almost all planes AND have the firepower to kill once they are close enough with relative ease.

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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