"Starter" plane (s)

[Midway]

A new pilot has already his hands full learning combat SA, how to read the map, judging Energy, how to aim and so on.
He need's an "easy to use plane" - meaning no 'secrets' ot very specific tricks he has to learn (like flaps dpeloyment in a F4U for eample)  , no severe handling issues (like a 109 at speed) and enpugh speed, maneuverability and not at least firepower (including ammo supply!).

A Spit 8 or 9 fits the requirement quite well.

   Pray tell all secrets, please.

Please place said list of secrets in a reply msg.  Thank you.

 

[Midway]

What exactly are those "bad habits" which a Spit will somehow force upon a new player?

Shooting down other aeroplanes with substantial frequency?

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What exactly are those "bad habits" which a Spit will somehow force upon a new player?

the spitfire does everything good..... you can perform maneuvers that will leave you in a bad way yet still be able to pull it back around or go vertical or whatever it is you need to do, at any givin moment..... which you can not do in almost every other plane in AH.....

[Lusche]

the spitfire does everything good..... you can perform maneuvers that will leave you in a bad way yet still be able to pull it back around or go vertical or whatever it is you need to do, at any givin moment..... which you can not do in almost every other plane in AH.....

Doing one thing good in a plane which another can't do as good is a 'bad habit'?


And the things you are describing are exactly the reason why I would recommend the Spit to a newcomer. That's exactly what a 'trainer' is there for - helping a player to get his feet wet.
According to the "it's too good" logic we should put new players in the P-40C

[Midway]

the spitfire does everything good..... you can perform maneuvers that will leave you in a bad way yet still be able to pull it back around or go vertical or whatever it is you need to do, at any givin moment..... which you can not do in almost every other plane in AH.....

"They can't take the Spitfires Mitch!  They can't take 'em!" -- The First of The Few

[Midway]

Doing one thing good in a plane which another can't do as good is a 'bad habit'?


And the things you are describing are exactly the reason why I would recommend the Spit to a newcomer. That's exactly what a 'trainer' is there for - helping a player to get his feet wet.
According to the "it's too good" logic we should put new players in the P-40C

or Storches....

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Doing one thing good in a plane which another can't do as good is a 'bad habit'?


And the things you are describing are exactly the reason why I would recommend the Spit to a newcomer. That's exactly what a 'trainer' is there for - helping a player to get his feet wet.
According to the "it's too good" logic we should put new players in the P-40C

that's pushing it a bit dont ya think

"They can't take the Spitfires Mitch!  They can't take 'em!" -- The First of The Few

you are a perfect example of what I am talking about

[Midway]

  Again, Bruv has spoken.

Winner of multiple T.O.C. annual events.  Winner of countless KOTHs, Dueling championships, etc.   Consistantly, and with substantial frequency, landing multiple victories in a variety of aeroplanes.

Bruv's credentials are unquestioned.

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Again, Bruv has spoken.

Winner of multiple T.O.C. annual events.  Winner of countless KOTHs, Dueling championships, etc.   Consistantly, and with substantial frequency, landing multiple victories in a variety of aeroplanes.

Bruv's credentials are unquestioned.

 


 

[Lusche]

Again, Bruv has spoken.

Winner of multiple T.O.C. annual events.  Winner of countless KOTHs, Dueling championships, etc.   Consistantly, and with substantial frequency, landing multiple victories in a variety of aeroplanes.

Bruv's credentials are unquestioned.

I really wish you would keep this routine of yours out of the Help and Training section.

[Midway]

I really wish you would keep this routine of yours out of the Help and Training section.

Stating facts, Lusche.  Do you question my facts?

How much better advice can someone get than to know who is one of the best fighter pilots, and most knowledgable with regards to fighting and consistantly winning in a variety of aeroplanes.

I wish I had received adivce from the best in my first month.... I didn't, because I didn't know who to listen to.

[waystin2]

I really wish you would keep this routine of yours out of the Help and Training section.

I'll second this.  Offer help or shut your yap.

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Stating facts, Lusche.  Do you question my facts?

How much better advice can someone get than to know who is one of the best fighter pilots, and most knowledgable with regards to fighting and consistantly winning in a variety of aeroplanes.

I wish I had received adivce from the best in my first month.... I didn't, because I didn't know who to listen to.

yes I do question your "facts" as being relevant, if I were bruv I would be embarrassed and a bit pissed every time you use my name.

what lusche said take it elsewhere.

[Midway]

I'll second this.  Offer help or shut your yap.

I absolutely did and am offerring sincere help... is that not obvious?  Who else is emphasizing that someone new should find out what the best among us thinks?  Obviously Bruv's advice carries much more weight than others, me, for example.

Listen to and learn from the best, find out who they are, that's my advice.

Also, note morfiend... an outstanding trainer for basic flying and fighter skills.  Listening to him should also carry more weight, imho.

My first few months, I received so many opinions, most differring from others (and often conflicting), I was totally confused as to what to do and how to get better and was shot down so much I was getting dejected.  It wasn't until I found out who the best pilots were that could fly a variety of aeroplanes (to get rid of bias for favorites), and listened to trainers such as morfiend, that the confusion dissipated and I made substantial progress.  As you can see just in this thread, there is little consistancy and strong feelings from many.  Again, my advice... find out who the best pilots are, find out who the official trainers are in the TA.... and listen to them to avoid the confusion and make fast progress.

[Butcher]

I absolutely did and am offerring sincere help... is that not obvious?  Who else is emphasizing that someone new should find out what the best among us thinks?  Obviously Bruv's advice carries much more weight than others, me, for example.

Midway you don't help you troll, this isn't the place for your trolling the general discussion is.