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Offline Nathan60

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« Reply #30 on: August 21, 2012, 10:48:22 AM »
from the link Buster provided


The article also points out that it was  a training run which explains why they were using water at the time.
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« Reply #31 on: August 21, 2012, 11:20:24 AM »
I hear the DC-10 was a pilot's plane. I remember talking to a few guys who had flown it, and they loved it.

The aircraft can be loaded with fire fighting liquids in "as little as eight minutes"  WOW!
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« Reply #32 on: August 21, 2012, 12:23:08 PM »
wouldnt it be cheaper to control burn any areas predicted to be at risk?

If only you guys had some kind of vehicle that could deliver large amounts of incendiary devices accurately from the air. and lots of them ... ;)
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« Reply #33 on: August 21, 2012, 12:33:22 PM »
wouldnt it be cheaper to control burn any areas predicted to be at risk?

If only you guys had some kind of vehicle that could deliver large amounts of incendiary devices accurately from the air. and lots of them ... ;)

We mount them on the roofs of apartment buildings.   :aok
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« Reply #34 on: August 21, 2012, 12:39:41 PM »
:D


I was thinking Buffs - how many you got operational or on standby? Like Arclight but with incediaries designed for controlled burn would create quite an effective firebreak. cheap too, way under $1/lb I imagine.
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« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2012, 12:47:25 PM »
:D


I was thinking Buffs - how many you got operational or on standby? Like Arclight but with incediaries designed for controlled burn would create quite an effective firebreak. cheap too, way under $1/lb I imagine.

Glad you have a sense of humor  :aok

I know that in some instances, controlled burns get OUT of control.  I have never experienced the Santa Ana winds in California , but I hear they can turn a campfire into a conflagration in short order.
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« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2012, 03:35:38 PM »
  The natural cycle of fire helps the forest by clearing the dead wood and brush but we have altered that cycle by putting fires out. Now when they get out of control they have plenty of fuel.

  The DC-10 is a good plane with decent engines. I remember fueling them at ACY in the early 80's.  :aok
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« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2012, 03:39:43 PM »
I heard the last forest fire in France was on the German border.....it Surrendered when the German firefighters showed up  :O :bolt:

Another good shot

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« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2012, 05:35:18 PM »
If you can't drop the water precisely nor reload in flight at the nearby lake your fire will stay the size of France. BTW that was almost funny, good try.


It actually drops fire retardent/chemicals infront of the path of a fire.  When fighting a fire the size of France, it is much easier (and a lot safer) to utilise an army of resources to contain it and let it burn itself out rather than utterly defeat it.

It's size and range and payload enable it to fly very long distances into rural areas and drop precisely a very long long line of retardent, essentialy creating instantly a seamless defencive line stretching nearly a mile in otherwise inaccessable terrain.

There are other aircraft that I think are more impressive, think medium sized (well, large for a sea plane) and capable of skimming a large body of water to rapidly refill tons of water, then flying to drop it and imediatley repeating the process.  If weather and conditions are right, they can have a serious impact.  That is their downside though to something like the DC-10 though, they cost more for maintenance and need good weather and conditions to rapidly refuel off water surfaces.
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« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2012, 06:11:58 PM »
60,000-pound loads of water and fire retardant


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« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2012, 08:24:00 PM »
     Think that is the last one of the four they started with.  Saw a very impressive video of it being preflighted.  The flight engineer climbed out
onto the horizontal stab to use a DOOR built into the verticle stab to inspect it.  That and the seemingly miles long flight deck were very
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« Reply #41 on: August 21, 2012, 11:59:42 PM »
Could an airship with a hose connected with a pumping station on ground be developed? So it could spray continuously from air... airplanes carrying water look so inefficient.

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« Reply #42 on: August 22, 2012, 01:23:23 AM »
Could an airship with a hose connected with a pumping station on ground be developed? So it could spray continuously from air... airplanes carrying water look so inefficient.

Considering the turbulence over a fire an airship is the last thing I'd want to be in.
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« Reply #43 on: August 22, 2012, 09:27:40 AM »
     Think that is the last one of the four they started with.  Saw a very impressive video of it being preflighted.  The flight engineer climbed out onto the horizontal stab to use a DOOR built into the verticle stab to inspect it.  That and the seemingly miles long flight deck were very memorable.

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« Reply #44 on: August 22, 2012, 01:50:42 PM »
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