Question

[Daddkev]

  My finger smells like Boogers! 

[tunnelrat]

There is probably a curve... a sweet spot... where your opponent is up to X better than you, where you will learn the most.

There is probably a point where an opponent so handily outclasses you, uses techniques so advanced that you cannot follow them as you are missing the foundational building blocks, that the law of diminishing returns sets in.

There is a reason you don't start learning math by taking Linear Algebra.

(However, I think going up against even someone slightly better than you is better than going up against someone equally skilled)

[ink]

Practise and Experience is the most important thing.

the drive/urge to get better is the most important thing to getting better.

practice is next......but if you practice 200 hrs a month something that is not "good"  well you'll be great at being "not good"

experience...ehh....I have easily killed guys that have far more experience then I.


now if we talk about what is the most important part of being a straight up killer.....that is AIM.

AIM/practice/ACM/practice/timing/practice/SA/practice....

my order of importance to becoming a top stick in AH

[LCADolby]

Determination is expected. Will to Win and all that 

[DrBone1]

Still have yet to hear from Grizz,BatFink,Suns and Krup keep the info coming guys.   

[StabOps]

paraphrasing here


...any sufficiently advanced skill is indistinguishable from magic.


ya know?

Stab

[Dead Man Flying]

The answer is both.  It's not an either/or kind of thing.

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The answer is both.  It's not an either/or kind of thing.

 

[DrBone1]

What gives you that answer Dead Man Flying?

Or I should have said which will you gain the most from. 

[DrBone1]

 Fight a better player to get better, fight a similar player to refine your betterment.

I Agree with this.

ty for the info Shane.   Sir!

[Dead Man Flying]

What gives you that answer Dead Man Flying?

Or I should have said which will you gain the most from. 

My dueling experience was informed by fighting players better than myself and tons of duels against people of roughly equal skill.  I found both useful in different ways.  Duels against cohorts like Jase and Nath were fun and informative because they allowed for more improvisation and experimentation.  Sometimes you discover something in the course of those fights that elevates both of your games to a new level.

Duels against better players were more helpful for pushing me past skill plateaus.  I recall fighting Vap (of the Musketeers) some 16 years ago, and in the course of caving my face in fight after fight after fight, I realized that he was doing something I'd never considered before... using the vertical.  Big eye opener there, and that opened up the whole ACM game book to me.

[ink]

Determination is expected. Will to Win and all that 

you know as well as I that is not a high priority in the MA

[Guppy35]

Do you feel as though you learn more from fighting players of more experience or fighting players of equal skill ?

Was not sure where to post this move it if need be skuzzy. 

Apologies If I may seem stupid to post this but I find it an interesting Topic.

Discuss.     

Both.

Too many variables not to learn in both situations.  Unless we're all in the same plane with the same load out, learning happens all the time.  If I take on Ink in a Ki-84 and I'm in a 38G, odds are pretty good unless I get a lucky shot, I'm going to get clobbered.  Would that be the same if I was in a Ki or he was in a 38G?  I don't know. It doesn't matter to me though as in the end the challenge is getting more out of my bird of choice.  

It also comes down to how you define a better player.   A better player could be defined as one who makes sure he uses all the tactical advantages and uses a bird to exploit that.  Or it could be a guy who can plow into a crowd in a lesser bird and come out the other side alive.  

Everyone has their own scale of getting better too whether it be score, K/D, or just finding out something they didn't know the last time they fought someone.

In the end taking em all on is the way to go

[danny76]

I sem to plateau for ages, then improve a touch, and then fall back into old techniques. I rarely land kills because I a.) have bad SA, and b.) keep getting stuck into fights when I should leave.

I wonder whether my problem is that I am not bright enough to translate the acm I know and read about all the time, with what I am doing on game. I am told that I do certain manouvres , but I do them because they feel right, rather than a cognitive process where I am selecting counter moves at the right time. Dont know whether that is good or bad .Or whether I am destined to be permanently mediocre

[Karnak]

Depends on the skill levels.  If the less skilled guy is going down in the first few seconds each time he won't have time to learn much or anything.