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Offline tuton25

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B-40
« on: September 05, 2012, 06:52:42 PM »
Based on the B-17 was designed to escourt bombers
All the bomb racks were removed for up to 30 .50 cal machineguns
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Re: B-40
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2012, 06:55:33 PM »
+1 plz I've been waiting for someone to finally post the gunship b17  :devil it would be a monster in a furball
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Re: B-40
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2012, 06:56:43 PM »
You know how badly abused this thing will be?

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: B-40
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2012, 07:01:40 PM »
Perk it.........People won't just go diving into a furball then
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Re: B-40
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2012, 07:06:43 PM »
30 50 CALS?
THIRTY .FIFTY CALIBERS?!?!
You all realize if we get this, once 999000 is done with it this will be about what's left....right?

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Re: B-40
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2012, 07:47:42 PM »
YB-40, note the Y, was a failure in service tests and quickly withdrawn.  It could not keep up with the B-17s after they had dropped their bombs.

Also, it did not have thirty .50s.  It had sixteen and lots of ammunition if I recall correctly.
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Re: B-40
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2012, 07:49:13 PM »
While Karnak is right, it does however fit the criteria for addition to AH2's planeset.

It flew 48 sorties, scored 5 A2A kills or more, served IN COMBAT In squadron strength in the European theater. It was not a field mod, it was commissioned by the USAAC for operations. And at least 25 were built, possibly more converted.

Therefore, it does qualify. While it would be LONG after all other primary aircraft are modeled, this is a possibility.   

General characteristics

    Crew: 10
    Length: 74 ft 9 in (22.6 m)
    Wingspan: 103 ft 9 in (31.4 m)
    Height: 19 ft 1 in (5.8 m)
    Wing area: 1,527 ft² (141.9 m²)
    Empty weight: 54,900 lb (24,900 kg)
    Loaded weight: 63,500 lb (28,800 kg)
    Max. takeoff weight: 74,000 lb (34,000 kg)
    Powerplant: 4 × Wright R-1820-65 turbosupercharged radial engines, 1,200 hp (895 kW) each

Performance

    Maximum speed: 292 mph (470 km/h)
    Cruise speed: 196 mph (315 km/h)
    Range: 2,260 mi (3,640 km)
    Service ceiling: 29,200 ft (8,900 m)
    Rate of climb: ft/min (m/s)
    Wing loading: 47.2 lb/ft² (231 kg/m²)
    Power/mass: 0.066 hp/lb (0.11 kW/kg)


Armament

    Guns: 18 (or more) × .50 in (12.7 mm) Browning M2 machine guns. Typically used 14-16, with room for up to 30.[citation needed]

Location    Rounds
Nose    2,200
Front top turret    2,500
Aft top turret    3,300
Ball turret    300
Waist guns    1,200
Tail guns    ,
Total    10,700



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Re: B-40
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2012, 08:20:03 PM »
It would be fun....
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Re: B-40
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2012, 08:45:20 PM »
While Karnak is right, it does however fit the criteria for addition to AH2's planeset.


It doesn't.  The YB-40 were used as part of a test program to gauge the feasibility of using up armed B-17s as escorts and once the test was completed, the planes were withdrawn from service.  The YB-40 never made full operational status nor enter into full production save the 58 that were built to take part in the test project.

Had the YB-40 entered into full production and operational service, the Y would have been dropped as it wouldn't be classified as test bed anymore.


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Re: B-40
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2012, 09:14:29 PM »
As far as I am aware.

The criteria is squadron strength, saw combat between 1939 to 45, no field mods.

It did, It did, It isn't.

Am I missing any criteria, if I am, then I withdraw my statement.
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Re: B-40
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2012, 09:28:28 PM »
Never squadron strength
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Re: B-40
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2012, 09:36:29 PM »
As far as I am aware.

The criteria is squadron strength, saw combat between 1939 to 45, no field mods.

It did, It did, It isn't.

Am I missing any criteria, if I am, then I withdraw my statement.

It was a prototype, and some prototypes were tested in combat like the Yb-40 for example. Except the Project was canceled since it couldn't escort bomb loaded B-17s, it actually was to slow.
There were one X-b40 and 22 Y-b40s built, all of the 92nd Bomb Group at Alconbury ( I think?)

Biggest problem really was speed, Yb-40 could not stay in formations with B-17Fs loaded with bombs - they ended up having to fly maximum power. But not all was lost, the Chin Turret was later adapted for the G model B-17s.

There are dozens of aircrafts that were prototypes, not everyone chose to put them in combat, Japan for example had Ki-44s as prototypes and fielded a squadron to test them.
German's had a few Prototypes that ran into combat in the later stages of war, Do-335 - Ta-152 etc.

Some were put into production, some were not. If the Yb-40 ever was added in game, it would not have formations, and would not do so well vs a formation of buffs.

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Re: B-40
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2012, 10:21:14 PM »
I wonder how Old 666 would have faired in the ETO with its 19 .50 caliber machine guns?

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Re: B-40
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2012, 10:46:05 PM »
You know how badly abused this thing will be?

I second that.
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Re: B-40
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2012, 11:20:16 PM »

German's had a few Prototypes that ran into combat in the later stages of war, Do-335 - Ta-152 etc.


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