89 million unemployed?

[Shuffler]

what are you going to do about it?

Can we find work for them?

Well once the government turns over I'll hire a couple more folks. While the regime is in the job situation will only get worse. The current regime has no idea about business.

[eagl]

yes it is because my family is one of those who need it. funny how my parents are disabled and i work two jobs currently trying to keep a roof over our heads. so please dont consider 100% of this as people cheating the system <S>

Some people need it.  More just don't work.  The thing is, the govt would rather put those unemployed people on welfare and food stamps to "prove" how valuable their programs are, than to remove regulations and red tape that prevents business from giving them jobs.  The govt offices in charge of the welfare programs like food stamps are graded on how many people they give food stamps to!  So of course they're going to try everything they can to expand their programs instead of working to get those people jobs so they can get OFF the welfare program.  Declining welfare roles means some govt employee may be out of a job.

It's pretty simple to keep this going when the president loves nothing more than being able to brag about doubling the amount of food stamps his administration is handing out.  Increasing the number of people receiving aid is considered a good thing by the current administration.  This is a problem because as it has been said over and over, at some point you run out of other people's money.  The US ran out a long time ago.

[Shuffler]

I work in "low income" weatherization, a lot of people are getting on the gravy train by starting a business, and they only report part of their income, now I am not saying everyone is doing this but I have worked on several peoples homes who have a business, all live quite well.  Then you have the total dead weight off of our checks are the ones who just dont want to work.  One of my clients said " I dont want no mo foin job anyways".  So we get to pay for her heat, food, etc.  I think that the USA is going to turn into a 3rd world country probably in the next 10 years or so, everything keeps going up and up, but the pay stays the same.  Gas here went up 20 cents in a matter of 3 days, that eats up a 3 percent raise.  So a lot of people that have to commute to work will be working to pay for gas and nothing else.  And food that goes up right along with gas prices.  My opinion, all the money they are raising for the campaigns could be better spent if they would get together and do something other than bash eachother.  I have to agree there is about 5 or 10 people that run the entire world.  

Funny but if starting a business was so easy then everyone would start one. People who have no business are the ones who think it's so easy.

I have no problem feeding those who can't or won't work..... for that they should live where and how those who pay their way feel they should. No TVs, no stereos,,,, nothing fancy as in clothes or car or living conditions. Just enough to survive. Those who don't like it can step out of the line and support themselves.

[NatCigg]

Well once the government turns over I'll hire a couple more folks. While the regime is in the job situation will only get worse. The current regime has no idea about business.

lol,

if we could pay people less id hire more. call it globalization

[Shuffler]

lol,

if we could pay people less id hire more. call it globalization

I'm being taxed into the ground. Then when this healthcare crap passed I have to pay more for my employees healthcare but they get less coverage than they had before. Now the higher cost helps cover some deadbeat that has a ticket to vote.

[NatCigg]

I'm being taxed into the ground. Then when this healthcare crap passed I have to pay more for my employees healthcare but they get less coverage than they had before. Now the higher cost helps cover some deadbeat that has a ticket to vote.

we are 1099 100$ jobs. its crazy that they want to track EVERY dollar.

[kotrenin]

"The Labor Department counts a person as not in the civilian labor force if they are at least 16 years old, are not in the military or an institution such as a prison, mental hospital or nursing home, and have not actively looked for a job in the last four weeks.

The department counts a person as in “the civilian labor force” if they are at least 16, are not in the military or an institution such as a prison, mental hospital or nursing home, and either do have a job or have actively looked for one in the last four weeks."

Read more: http://armstrongandgetty.talk910.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104668&article=10401301#ixzz26DZys9km


Soooo, by their definition they are including the 49,000,000+ people over the age of 65... or in other words "retirees".  Last I remember the "babyboomer" generation was starting to enter retirement age and they make up 26% of the total population. 10,000 new retirees everyday since 1/1/11. Of course there's a new record and there will probably be a new one every year for the next 17 years, especially considering the increase in life expectancy.   

 

[eagl]

we are 1099 100$ jobs. its crazy that they want to track EVERY dollar.

That is the single reason I didn't start my own business last year.  Way too much documentation required for the business model I had planned on using.  I wouldn't even be able to buy copier paper without sending a 1099 to staples.  Too bad, my business would have needed at least one employee almost immediately.

I don't have any options other than running it "off the books" as a cash-only operation, and at this point I'm not willing to do that.  Too much to lose and nothing to gain except hatred from those who envy business owners and want free stuff, and possible prosecution from the govt.  So I can't do it.  Too bad, I had been looking forward to transitioning from a taxpayer funded job to a business that created work, jobs, and inherently valuable things out of essentially nothing.

[Ardy123]

EDIT: Are all of you dealing with many-many small job contractors?

Granted I just deal with a very small set of contractors but I just have them fill out a w7 and then I have my accountant fill out the 1099-misc with some specialized tax software...
I guess it can get a little confusing if you have many different contractors all doing tiny jobs...

[Anodizer]

I hope you folks realize that there's a large percentage of military families on food stamps/welfare..
 
And be so kind as to read the article before you put me over the lava pit, please read..

http://www.vamortgagecenter.com/blog/2012/05/09/why-are-so-many-military-families-on-food-stamps/

Also, I believe we should lower the standard for who gets assistance..  There are far too many people who are way beyond needing foodstamps/wic/etc who are allowed to have it because they meet the financial requirements without even having to scam the system..  The financial requirements are way too loose.. Hell, my wife and I do pretty well and I bet we could get on WIC if we wanted just because we have two kids..  I'm for helping people out..  A modern, civilized does so one way or the other..  Whether it's through charity or through government help, or both..  Unfortunately, now you have generations of families how are taken care of, womb to the tomb..  If you ever saw documentary The Wonderful Whites of West Virginia, that father of those children had them all on disability or Social Security when they were just children.. 

[homersipes]

WIC here in vermont everyone gets while women are preggo, then they go by income and the more you make the less you get.  One thing that stands out to me at work is that we had an all staff meeting and a family service worker was reading this letter from a client, the client had dug herself into a hole with her car, lights, phone and fuel.  she drank all of her money away, so SEVCA the company I work for, helped her out of her problem, no harm done everyone is entitled to SOME help right?  so 3 weeks go by or something and the lady is BACK, same problem same reason, they bail her out again, this went on several times, then the lady got canned from her job and now shes a leech off of our paychecks.  The family service worker was crying as she read the letter, its people like that that get me .  generations get dependant on the system.  I have no problem with a "helping hand" persay.  As far as the military goes, those are they families that SHOULD be taken care of.  Anywho I see gas this morning was at 4.009 up from 3.729 just las week.

[NatCigg]

i know some people favor the rich, some favor the middle class, some favor the most votes they can get.  but I, the working poor, sure seem to have been forgoten about, and when the elections are over, im sure we will get trampled again.  cant we be left alone so we can continue to squeak out an existence.  

[MrRiplEy[H]]

WIC here in vermont everyone gets while women are preggo, then they go by income and the more you make the less you get.  One thing that stands out to me at work is that we had an all staff meeting and a family service worker was reading this letter from a client, the client had dug herself into a hole with her car, lights, phone and fuel.  she drank all of her money away, so SEVCA the company I work for, helped her out of her problem, no harm done everyone is entitled to SOME help right?  so 3 weeks go by or something and the lady is BACK, same problem same reason, they bail her out again, this went on several times, then the lady got canned from her job and now shes a leech off of our paychecks.  The family service worker was crying as she read the letter, its people like that that get me .  generations get dependant on the system.  I have no problem with a "helping hand" persay.  As far as the military goes, those are they families that SHOULD be taken care of.  Anywho I see gas this morning was at 4.009 up from 3.729 just las week.

Don't worry a gallon of gas costs here around USD8.

[Hap]

call it globalization

Call it exploitation.

I'm a former business owner.

[ACE]

Everyone should be spoon fed Dave Ramsey!