17 POUNDER

[Tinkles]

Count manned ack gun kills as kills?  Do you know how easy it is to kill a soft gun?  A single 0.303 shell has to land somewhere in the same county as the gun and it dies.  People would rack up 10 kill sorties in a blink of an eye.  Should that be counted the same as shooting down 10 planes in a sortie?

No, but it is high time that those in the AA guns get some type of reward for their kills, (as previously suggested on multiple topics here.) The AA guns would have their own "category" like Vehicles, Fighters, Bombers and Attack; then add a new line of offensive or defensive ground weapons that would add more content to the game. Like the towable 88mm (+1 on that by the way).   The new weapons added for this category would of course be realistic, some things would be perked others not.

I think overall it would be a benefit to the game.

[JimmyD3]

that would be nice actually, tired of people sitting in field guns getting far easy kills without doing any work.
This makes perfect sense, and it would eliminate those who sit in field guns all day long without actually getting killed.

You must be awesome in a field gun!!!! I didn't know there were ANY easy kills in a field gun, guess I didn't realize I was that bad!!!!!!!!!!

[waystin2]

Please can we fix the 17 pdr so we can look around like the 88's.

I took the time to read the OP's post and not spend time derailing the thread and I will give it a +1.

[68EZPkns]

Quote from: 68EZPkns on September 19, 2012, 09:42:35 AM
Please can we fix the 17 pdr so we can look around like the 88's.


I took the time to read the OP's post and not spend time derailing the thread and I will give it a +1.
 
 Yea ,how did this thread get so far off topic?Not that I disagree with having towed guns.I have a WW2 online account also and there are some things they have, like towed guns, that I dont see why Aces high couldnt incorperate into this game.
 But I see no reason why you cant look around from the 17 pdr.I mean the gun traverses so slow being able to look around and know which way to swing the gun would make a big diff on how quickly you could bring the gun to bear on target.
 I wish the 88 and 17 had 2 positions.A gunner and a spotter.

[icepac]

+1 on being able to look around in 17 pounder but not while in zoom.

[kvuo75]

+1 on being able to look around in 17 pounder but not while in zoom.

thats how it worked before..

you had to hit z to look thru the sight

[skorpx1]

I'd like to see a spawnable 88mm, and maybe use the SdKfz 251 to tow it.


Doesn't seem like it would be unbalancing to the game, and might not even be perk worthy.



Would provide a bit of longer-ranged AA defense for attackers (always one of the biggest problems), and it would be a nice step towards making field guns count as kills.

Wait until someone drives that towable 88 up to an enemy field and starts fishing for free/easy kills as the enemy planes lift off. Iv'e actually driven a T-34-85 with a few buddies to an enemy base 2 sectors away from the home spawn.

[icepac]

thats how it worked before..

you had to hit z to look thru the sight

The way it was before, I could move head position outside of the sight's field of view and use f8 to align a part of the gun to be my new sight which allowed me to make multiple hits at the very end of the gun's range.

This is why it was changed.

[kvuo75]

The way it was before, I could move head position outside of the sight's field of view and use f8 to align a part of the gun to be my new sight which allowed me to make multiple hits at the very end of the gun's range.

This is why it was changed.

we can still do that with the other field guns.. hmm..

[DMGOD]

Wait until someone drives that towable 88 up to an enemy field and starts fishing for free/easy kills as the enemy planes lift off. Iv'e actually driven a T-34-85 with a few buddies to an enemy base 2 sectors away from the home spawn.

And......?

[guncrasher]

Please can we fix the 17 pdr so we can look around like the 88's.

there's no bug with the 17 lbs.  that's how it was designed so you have to move it around to spot.

semp

[Volron]

that would be nice actually, tired of people sitting in field guns getting far easy kills without doing any work.
This makes perfect sense, and it would eliminate those who sit in field guns all day long without actually getting killed.

I hate to say it, but that would NOT stop me from sitting in a manned gun all day if I felt like it.   You could have it count as 1000 deaths, I would still sit in a manned gun.


As for the OP, I agree.  Should be able to look around while in the 17 pdr like you can with all other guns.  Jump into a 37mm or even the twin 5" guns on a cv.  You can look around while in those, though I would have to question the ability to look around while in a 5" turret.  The "open" 5" guns on the side of the CV, I understand being able to look around, but the "covered" turrets as well as those on the DD's?  Same goes for the 8" guns, though you don't really look around while in those, still question it.

[R 105]

I'd like to have the ability to look up and over the shield much like the real gunners did in WWII.  I do not think they should have any more than the 2.5X ability to zoom in (out of the gun sight) like the tank commanders do.

As it is, the view is that of the gunner looking through the aiming reticule and that is it.     

I wondered why you can't look left right up and rear in the 17 ponder at a V-Base like we can in the 37mm or 88MM that makes no sense at all. Maybe the gunner has been in a car accident and he has on a big neck brace for insurance purposes and can't move his head lol. Plus why is there no anti-tank sight option for the 88mm as in real life? That sight was standard T.O & E (Table of Organization & Equipment) for the German 88.

[W7LPNRICK]

been requested several times w/o response....?

[715]

Plus why is there no anti-tank sight option for the 88mm as in real life? That sight was standard T.O & E (Table of Organization & Equipment) for the German 88.

Have you tried using the 88 mm for anti tank work using the AP round?  It's dispersion is truly terrible so a sight would be well nigh useless.  And if you ever do hit the target it often does little damage- I presume the 88 mm AP round from the ack gun is nothing like the 88 mm AP from the Tiger?