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Offline InCrypt

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After Action Report - The Gun Fighters: Salute to Defenders A-61
« on: September 24, 2012, 03:40:19 PM »
I had to wait a couple of days to writhe this AAR. I had to wait for the sting to wear off...

The Gun Fighters were tasked with doing an early fighter sweep to pop the defensive CAP at A-61. Viper, of the 325th Checker Tails, and Attack group lead, dispatched 3 of his bombers to snap to target with us as a diversion. We launched, and all snapped to target. The bombers were Tree-Top NOE, and the Gun Fighters broke into two wings, A 40/60 split. Wing 1, the light wing, would level at 10 K, while wing 2, the heavy wing would continue to climb to 20K. Thus stacked we went into target, Wing 1 leading the way 2 keypads ahead.
The objective was to pop the CAP at 61 and drag it South West and low, clearing the skies for the 325th to do a clean bomb run 15 minutes later. All went to plan until first contact at T+17. Wing 1 encountered a scout, who must have been screaming his head off because his buddies came fast. Wing 1 anchored the fight to the South West as planned, and 2 minutes later Wing 2 showed up with 10K of alt to support them. That's when things went to hell.

Just as wing 2, the wing I was leading, got into the area, we encounter a gaggle of 109's at 22K! We were outnumbered 3 to 1 and the ensuing fight was short for me. I was so focused on Strategic and Area Situational Awareness, that I let slip my Tactical SA and was shot down by a 109 that had maneuvered onto my six within 45 seconds of the first merge. I was also the first one down.
I tried to call plays from my chute, but the fight quickly moved outside of icon range. So I accepted a call, and became a gunner for one of the NOE strike bombers. That dispatch lasted all of 2 minutes, as the bomber was a single, over the NME base, and already being chased by 6 109's! But our plan had succeeded. All the fighters appeared to be below 4 K and to the South West of the base!

5 minutes later I joined one of the planes in the 325th main strike group as another gunner. Much to my chagrin I quickly realized that they were WAY out of position! They were supposed to follow the Gun Fighters by 15 minutes and hit by T+35. But they were 2 whole sectors north of the target! Viper took his guys on a circuitous route to the target. I found out later that his group had encountered fighters over the channel and were pushed out of position. As such, the window of opportunity The Gun Fighters had created slowly closed. By T+60, when the 325th were on their bomb run, in their sites, and over the target, the defenders of A-61 had climbed back up to alt, and boy did they find us!

We were  2 minutes from drop when 6 109's came in from 4 O’clock. Followed 15 seconds later by another 4 from 11 O’clock. I watched as the group from 4 O-Clock came sweeping in from high 4. Then they each picked a different box of buffs and parked behind it. I figure that the Germans must have captured a B-25 to practice with, because they knew were my stops were! The 109 that picked my plane was able to sit back there, just below my gun-deflection stop, and hammer away at my box. Here I was, surrounded by NME fighters, my pilot on the bomb run and unable to maneuver, no escort to clear our six, and I had the best view in the game to watch myself get shot down for the third time in the same FSO!

I was a bit frustrated, and at the time disgusted. But I realized that Viper got dealt a crappy hand and did the best he could with it.


So, <<< Salute >>> to the guys who defended A-61. It was definitely a German Victory over that base! :salute
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Offline Bannor

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Re: After Action Report - The Gun Fighters: Salute to Defenders A-61
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2012, 06:21:18 PM »
I too joined as a gunner riding with Viper. The 109s came in and I had to be patient for them to come up from below the tail to get a shot on them. I hit a few of them but the bastages just wouldn't die! :bhead It was fun though.  :salute
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Re: After Action Report - The Gun Fighters: Salute to Defenders A-61
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2012, 07:02:07 PM »
<S> Gun Fighters, 9GIAP were there and saw all this happen, the Gentlemen in the Spit 5's certainly earned our respect, they were very well flown and Jayro killed our C.O very early on.

I do recall some talk about feeling a bit sorry for the Buffs, but we had a job to do and we weren't the only Squad there, I know 1841 took a heavy toll on the Buffs also.

It was a great fight, looking forward to the next one!.

Salute

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Re: After Action Report - The Gun Fighters: Salute to Defenders A-61
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2012, 08:05:06 PM »
Hello: tunes here ...

I knew once asking Squadrons to post a AAR " After Action Repost". Thought about. The CO would like to write up the sortie. I Film all the FSO Frames. It is a learning tool along with the Debriefing of the Pilots and Officers.

Glad to post. <S> AHII,

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Re: After Action Report - The Gun Fighters: Salute to Defenders A-61
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2012, 11:25:00 PM »
The 325th VFG had the B25's for that run.  Things started to unravel when our Strike Package ran nearly head on into the AXIS Strike Package coming in the other direction, figure the odds.  So surprise was gone and I had to fly out of my flight path to get away from the AXIS escorts which throw off the timing a bit.  The ALLIED Fighter Sweep got in their and mixed it up.  In hind sight probably to early as this was to drag the Fighter Cap over A61 out of position for the B25's to come in from the north.  But we were 30 minutes behind that effort so the AXIS had plenty of time to get back into position.  We sent in 3 single NOE B25's as well in an attempt to fool the AXIS Fighter Cap into believing there was a NOE attack.  But again the timing was off, they hit to soon and we hit to late.  As a last ditch effort I released my 3 Spit V drivers who were low on gas at this point to head directly south and into A61 to play tag with any remaining 109's figuring how many could be left?  Well tag turned into a red wall.  I in turn took the bombers out and around A68 figuring that the radar flashing would send the AXIS Fighter Cap due north to the west side of 68 as I came in and around 68 from the east side at 24K.  I attempted to slip in and get my bombs out at H+58.  The AXIS Fighter Cap stayed in position and at altitude and we ran into them 2 minutes from drop.  No one got their bombs off on target.  No damage to 61.  I checked the logs and from my count our 3 squads shot down 1 X 109.  We in turn lost every fighter (about 15-18) and every bomber (24 X B25's).

Not good mission results............... unless you were AXIS  :lol   Still a fun scenario  :aok  and  :salute to the bad guys and their defense at 61.


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Re: After Action Report - The Gun Fighters: Salute to Defenders A-61
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2012, 01:27:08 PM »
Viper,

I was leading 1841 on that one.  Most of the defenders started the frame heading north since it had the least radar coverage.  You guys started flashing base on the west coast right away which ended my chance to relax for a few minuets.  Another squad sent a couple of scouts to see what was gong on while we continued north.  As the flashing base drew closer to A61 without the scouts reporting anything, I turned the squad around and headed back to the south.  If the scouts found something substantial, we would not be able to intercept before they reached the target if we waited too long.  The scouts then reported 6 Spits.  I was not going to commit my squad to the Allied sweep and we turned back to the north to wait for the bombers.  But then so much was flashing around 61 that we turned back to the south.  Then we got reports that there where B-25 on the deck to the south and we dove down from around 27k.  I saw two bombers down low at the field with a couple of 109s on them so did not go lower than about 4k.  Then we got a message that there where high bombers with escorts to the north.  I ordered us to climb as quickly as possible in that direction.  The report said the bombers where in 15,13,4 but that was more than 2 sectors away.  Thinking it was a typo because the bombers woudl not be able to take advantage of the low cap from there, I headed for 15,12,4 which would be a more immediate threat.  The 109 climbs really well and we got to altitude pretty quick.  Not seeing anything we turned to the north east towards A68.  A68 started flashing and we entered its radar ring a few minutes later and continued north east towards the field.  I figured the cause of the flash was no more then 6 miles at our 11 o'clock.  Not seeing anything I thought one of the escorts may have flown that way to draw us north east while the bomber made a dash to the south to 61.  I then turned us back to the south west to 61.  By then it is getting late, my guys have not seen any action, and I'm tired of trying to out-think what the Allies are doing.  There are reports of a couple of Spits here and a couple to Spits there.  At this point I would be happy for a single Spit and try and maneuver us to find something.  There where a lot of single dots everywhere and I maneuvered to attack a few but they turned out to be friendly -- some of the dots where even members of my own squad!  One on the squad mentioned that the bombers still had to be out there to the north so we headed back towards 68.  A few minutes later another squad member saw you coming out of the sun to the east.  The rest is as you know.

I was glade to get some kills but I can't say I enjoyed it.  It was by far the most exhausting evening I have ever had in FSO.

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Re: After Action Report - The Gun Fighters: Salute to Defenders A-61
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2012, 07:44:02 PM »
MachNix:

  Thanks for the reply from your side of the wall  :)  Glad to see we had you guys flying all over the place.  Since we hit nothing and you got all of us at least i can sleep knowing I made you use a whole bunch of gas!!!

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Re: After Action Report - The Gun Fighters: Salute to Defenders A-61
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2012, 11:08:57 PM »
LOL.  I might have known. Viper! 

If I might quote myself from in game, "Either this is the best attack plan I've ever seen or it's the worst attack plan I've ever seen.  Either way, I'm confused as to what's going on here".  :)
Now I know for certain that your timing came adrift.  I'd figured as much by the time we took down the last B25.

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I checked the logs and from my count our 3 squads shot down 1 X 109.
Yes I know :furious :lol
I get really really tired of selective realism disguised as a desire to make bombers easier to kill.

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