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Offline kvuo75

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Re: Does Ranking Matter?
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2012, 01:58:39 PM »
I have observed that the lower # your rank, the more likely you are to pm someone who kills you.  :D

usually always someone in the top 250.
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Re: Does Ranking Matter?
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2012, 02:00:08 PM »
I ranked in the top 100 last tour (as Cree). :banana:

 :headscratch:  Does it matter? :frown:



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Re: Does Ranking Matter?
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2012, 02:03:14 PM »
It matters so much that I never look at it
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Re: Does Ranking Matter?
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2012, 02:40:37 PM »
 rank is usually an indicator of timidness,the lower the # the more "carefull" the pilot


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Re: Does Ranking Matter?
« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2012, 02:54:00 PM »
rank is usually an indicator of timidness,the lower the # the more "carefull" the pilot

+100  rank means nothing more than an ego Stroker and a knowledge of how to game the game for lower score
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Re: Does Ranking Matter?
« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2012, 04:02:36 PM »
The only thing I have ever seen rank do for anyone in the game is control the CV, as best I can tell there is no other advantage!


This is about the ONLY thing ranking is good for.  If you are a lower rank, you can control a CV over a higher rank.  Most of the time, this is a good thing.  Otherwise, rank doesn't matter so long as you are enjoying the game for what it is, and nothing else.  If you like to fight to the death, then go for it, if you like to land your kills or bomb runs, then good on you.  If you like to run troops, then good on you, if you like the furball, then good on you. 

My perspective is just this, play the game the way you like.  If you kill me because I was engaged with someone else, and I die as a result of the pick, then shame on me for no SA.  This happens to me often.  In LW, I choose not to fly cannon planes most of the time.  I try to better my aim.  I know some guys that get accused of having "aimbot".  Here is what is actually happening, most of those guys that have a seemingly remarkable shot take the time in the TA to mark their monitors.  Called death dots.  It helps get a quicker kill.  I personally can't justify marking my $400 monitor, so I am "average" at best.  Some of those guys have better ranking.  But I can assure you that my squad, don't care about score or ranking. 

Our philosohpy is that you play your game.  In our squad, we play with and for eachother.  How you are ranked is what it is.  I agree that the scoring and ranking could be tweaked and I believe their are other threads regarding that very issue.  But fo rnow, some will game the game for ranking or status.  I personally don't care who is ranked and how they came to be that rank. 

The bottom line is that rank only impacts who can control a CV, and nothing more. 

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Re: Does Ranking Matter?
« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2012, 04:16:11 PM »
This is about the ONLY thing ranking is good for.  If you are a lower rank, you can control a CV over a higher rank.  Most of the time, this is a good thing.  Otherwise, rank doesn't matter so long as you are enjoying the game for what it is, and nothing else.  If you like to fight to the death, then go for it, if you like to land your kills or bomb runs, then good on you.  If you like to run troops, then good on you, if you like the furball, then good on you. 

My perspective is just this, play the game the way you like.  If you kill me because I was engaged with someone else, and I die as a result of the pick, then shame on me for no SA.  This happens to me often.  In LW, I choose not to fly cannon planes most of the time.  I try to better my aim.  I know some guys that get accused of having "aimbot".  Here is what is actually happening, most of those guys that have a seemingly remarkable shot take the time in the TA to mark their monitors.  Called death dots.  It helps get a quicker kill.  I personally can't justify marking my $400 monitor, so I am "average" at best.  Some of those guys have better ranking.  But I can assure you that my squad, don't care about score or ranking. 

Our philosohpy is that you play your game.  In our squad, we play with and for eachother.  How you are ranked is what it is.  I agree that the scoring and ranking could be tweaked and I believe their are other threads regarding that very issue.  But fo rnow, some will game the game for ranking or status.  I personally don't care who is ranked and how they came to be that rank. 

The bottom line is that rank only impacts who can control a CV, and nothing more. 

My 2 cents!!!

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Re: Does Ranking Matter?
« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2012, 04:29:14 PM »
Death dots? what?? You could put a thousand dots around the screen and it would make no difference whatsoever. I'll tell you a secret, my mg/cannon aim is my strongest point. It is the easiest part of combat to learn imo, bullet trajectory is pretty predictable, foes are not. My acm is distinctly average and if my bag of tricks was bigger and more refined i would be the stone cold killer I aspire to be.

I'm not advocating the lazy ones leave btw , by all means, they are welcome to fight me anytime

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Re: Does Ranking Matter?
« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2012, 04:52:33 PM »
Death dots? what?? You could put a thousand dots around the screen and it would make no difference whatsoever. I'll tell you a secret, my mg/cannon aim is my strongest point. It is the easiest part of combat to learn imo, bullet trajectory is pretty predictable, flopping fishes are not. My acm is distinctly average and if my bag of tricks was bigger and more refined i would be the stone cold killer I aspire to be.

I'm not advocating the lazy ones leave btw , by all means, they are welcome to fight me anytime

Fixed.

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Re: Does Ranking Matter?
« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2012, 05:31:06 PM »
there are some real gems in this thread  :rofl

I have shot a player knowing that I know this is a good kill shot just to notice the shot did not kill the player.  The issue, the player has a great ranking, say under 200 and my ranking is in the 1000s.  Over and over again.  Time and time again.  I'll one shot kill a player where I know that was not a well-placed round and/or at a distance shot.  Boom, he dies.  Check the player ranking, yep he has a ranking over say 1500 and my rank is down below say 400.  I don’t fly much anymore but can tell you I have also noticed this in the air.

for some reason the low number ranked players don't even bleed... after multiple attacks they'll eventually go down; however, the higher number rank players would have popped with only a quarter to half the rounds in them. 

Here is what is actually happening, most of those guys that have a seemingly remarkable shot take the time in the TA to mark their monitors.  Called death dots.  It helps get a quicker kill. 
« Last Edit: November 11, 2012, 05:33:33 PM by coombz »
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Re: Does Ranking Matter?
« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2012, 05:46:36 PM »
If rank matters to you it is important.  If it doesn't matter to you, then it isn't important.  There is no correct answer other then if it helps you enjoy the game it's all good.  I think many of us don't see it as a sign of excellence, but more a sign of time and energy available to put in the game.  That doesn't mean that there aren't great sticks who attain high ranking.  But one does not always connect to the other.

To me the only ranking that matters is how you rank the fun you are having playing the game.  But I'm only speaking for myself
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Re: Does Ranking Matter?
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2012, 05:47:01 PM »
Some of you need to step back and just think "Hey..maybe these guys are actually better than me".  :angel:

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Re: Does Ranking Matter?
« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2012, 07:24:44 PM »
 :OIt's so easy to rank low even a caveman could do it :O

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Re: Does Ranking Matter?
« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2012, 07:49:45 PM »
No rank is just a game playable feature in the game But it can be manipulated easily.
ie: fighter score vulching counts same as air kills hence u may have 600 kills a month in fighter but if 576 are vulches then it says you can vulch
but in the air your a total noob that runs at the sight of any real talent u encounter thus hindering you from becoming a better pilot.
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Re: Does Ranking Matter?
« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2012, 09:53:23 PM »
This is about the ONLY thing ranking is good for.  If you are a lower rank, you can control a CV over a higher rank.  Most of the time, this is a good thing.  Otherwise, rank doesn't matter so long as you are enjoying the game for what it is, and nothing else.  If you like to fight to the death, then go for it, if you like to land your kills or bomb runs, then good on you.  If you like to run troops, then good on you, if you like the furball, then good on you. 

My perspective is just this, play the game the way you like.  If you kill me because I was engaged with someone else, and I die as a result of the pick, then shame on me for no SA.  This happens to me often.  In LW, I choose not to fly cannon planes most of the time.  I try to better my aim.  I know some guys that get accused of having "aimbot".  Here is what is actually happening, most of those guys that have a seemingly remarkable shot take the time in the TA to mark their monitors.  Called death dots.  It helps get a quicker kill.  I personally can't justify marking my $400 monitor, so I am "average" at best.  Some of those guys have better ranking.  But I can assure you that my squad, don't care about score or ranking. 

Our philosohpy is that you play your game.  In our squad, we play with and for eachother.  How you are ranked is what it is.  I agree that the scoring and ranking could be tweaked and I believe their are other threads regarding that very issue.  But fo rnow, some will game the game for ranking or status.  I personally don't care who is ranked and how they came to be that rank. 

The bottom line is that rank only impacts who can control a CV, and nothing more. 

My 2 cents!!!

 :rock

I dont understand. Why would you put marks on your monitor? The option of making a custom gunsight is there if you are really that dependent on having marks for different angles and trajectories but even thats going to be dependent on how far you are from your target and how many G's he's pulling, plus this gives absolutely no benefit to someone with a TrackIR whatsoever. I've never seen or heard of someone 'marking' their monitor but if there really are people in this game that do that....  :rolleyes:

Anyway, back to the original topic. I highly doubt there's any type of conspiracy over the 'lower ranked players' taking more shots to kill. They are harder to kill because they know how to spoil your shot. If they seem like they are taking you down rather quickly, it's either because they got a lucky shot out or because they are taking accurate shots at you right in their convergence range. It only takes a quick burst of 6 .50 cals at convergence range to rip the wing off of a plane. Cannons are just as quick. The better players have trained themselves to shoot at their convergence point, unless other factors in the fight are prohibiting that. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

I personally wont shoot unless I'm at my convergence and have at least a decent gun solution on the target. The less bullets used to take someone down, the better. Occasionally it does feel like it takes just about all of my ammo to kill someone, I'm sure everyone has fights like that at some point, but I wouldn't go as far as saying its only the lower ranked people that seem to not die.
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