Chinese lands jets on first Carrier.

[BoilerDown]

I've said it a million times and will say it again.

Pearl Harbor, 9/11, Gulf War 2, Vietnam and even the Spanish American war in the late 19th century.

Believing your enemy to be inferior to you and nothing to worry about. Is a very very bad idea.

Oh noes, we're all going to die because some guy on the AH forums doesn't give China enough credit!

Come on man.

[GScholz]

Yes, the Discovery Channel is great. You can also learn all you need to fly to the Moon and back!

Color coding of the flight deck crew and hand signals does not equate going to the Moon.

Or like I said, you could just read a book.

http://publicintelligence.net/u-s-navy-nuclear-carrier-vessel-flight-deck-manual/

[Vulcan]

Fifteen years from now, they may own the western Pacific.

LOL. You guys (USA) need to wake up, they're already cornering relationships across all the smaller pacific nations. Chinese demand for raw resources is huge, they're throwing a lot of money around at the moment. Even free trade with them is easy (whereas the USA wants to shove stupid patent and IP laws down our throats, give corporations the right to sue governments etc). It's quite concerning how quickly they're moving.

[Mace2004]

Color coding of the flight deck crew and hand signals does not equate going to the Moon.

Or like I said, you could just read a book.

http://publicintelligence.net/u-s-navy-nuclear-carrier-vessel-flight-deck-manual/

OK, I guess I've got to spell it out.  I'm sure they have all of our CV NATOPS manuals, even the classified ones, and what you see in the video simply shows that copying us is exactly what they're doing.  However, there's a big difference between reading a manual and the experience and training required to actually do it. CV ops are tremendously complex (I'm talking about the whole ship and air wing weapons system, not just the color of some guy's jersey) and it's a simple fact that they have reportedly sent young men to the US to gain the actual training and experience at the US Navy's expense. This is not a tremendous leap in logic, it simply is what it is.

[titanic3]

"Private Lee report to the bridge!"

*Entire crew shows up*

[Meatwad]

Let it go into international waters and have an "accident"

[FiLtH]

The CV in WWIII will have the same fate as the BB of WWII.  The sub will rule the oceans.

[Plawranc]

China is the largest manufacturing power on Earth.

It is the most populated.

Sure, they may only build a Carrier that is only 1/2 or 3/4 as good as the USA.

But given time and money, both of which they have, they can build twice as many.

[titanic3]

China is the largest manufacturing power on Earth.

It is the most populated.

Sure, they may only build a Carrier that is only 1/2 or 3/4 as good as the USA.

But given time and money, both of which they have, they can build twice as many.

We also have NATO...they have...North Korea?

[Changeup]

I've said it a million times and will say it again.

Pearl Harbor, 9/11, Gulf War 2, Vietnam and even the Spanish American war in the late 19th century.

Believing your enemy to be inferior to you and nothing to worry about. Is a very very bad idea.

I'm fairly certain no one is saying ignore the Chinese.  Some of us are simply pointing out that just because they rolled out a CV doesn't make them the masters of the high seas.  Besides, with all of the anti-ship missile systems that most countries possess now, every single CV out there is virtually doomed if within range to Exocet Inundation....the firing of so many anti-ship missiles simultaneously that the ships defense systems are over-loaded in response.  Exocets, Harpoon II and Penguin Mk2 have standoff, over the horizon ranges and can be fired from multiple launch platforms including submarines at depth.  Salvos of 12-15 Harpoon II beyond the horizon or Exocets would set a CV back months if not sink her outright.  It's a different blue water and littoral waters world boys.

[Changeup]

LOL. You guys (USA) need to wake up, they're already cornering relationships across all the smaller pacific nations. Chinese demand for raw resources is huge, they're throwing a lot of money around at the moment. Even free trade with them is easy (whereas the USA wants to shove stupid patent and IP laws down our throats, give corporations the right to sue governments etc). It's quite concerning how quickly they're moving.

This one sounds bitter...China has 2.5 billion soldiers....and no real logistical method of getting them anywhere in a hurry.  MacAuthur was correct....no one will ever win a land war in Asia so don't fight them there.  If you leave the Chinese alone, they'll leave everyone else alone. 

Proof statement:  with all the economic success China is having, how many US citizens are applying for Chinese citizenship for the opportunities there? Yup...thought so....

[fullmetalbullet]

China is the largest manufacturing power on Earth.

It is the most populated.

Sure, they may only build a Carrier that is only 1/2 or 3/4 as good as the USA.

But given time and money, both of which they have, they can build twice as many.

That Idk about. a large navy is extremely expensive, Yes china may have money and it is increasing everyday. this does not mean they will field a large navy with twice as many CVs as us. plus you also have to factor we have allies with large surface navies aswell Australia, Japan, Britain, France, I think germany italy and spain also have a sizable Surface fleet. couple that with our large navy and the odds quickly become small. plus china is inexperianced when it comes to naval warfare. yes you can say that give them time they will learn. but with our experience, we will still come out on top. but the price in my opinion would be WAY!!!!! to high. i mean think about it. WW1 30 million died. WW2 55-60 million died. what do you think a war with China VS USA+her allies.= would cost?

My uncle is a statagist with the US Army, a damn good one too. he told me "we would win, But at a High cost".

[zack1234]

That thing is as effective as the big French CVs?  I am skeptical.

I believe India also has one of those carriers in service, though they have been operational with it for a bit if I recall.  Of course nobody here is alarmed at India having a CV because, I guess, India is seen as a friendly democracy.

INS Vikrant:
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Seems India is building another CV of domestic design as well.  Expected to enter service in 2017 to 2020.

Britain stopped giving charity aid to India this month

I asked Mr Wing at my local Chinese take away about the said developements, he said he was more concerned with the new takeaway opening across the road, he also said stopped asking stupid questions and do I want my usual

[Lusche]

Zack is Chinese! 

[Hoarach]

And while China is working on its first domestic carrier....the United States has already begun on its next class of carriers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_R._Ford_class_aircraft_carrier

The Ford Class carriers to replace the Nimitz class carriers with the scheduled launch in 2013.  Still as large as the Nimitz class and still carry nearly twice as many planes as any other carrier in the world.  What will the Chinese do if they had to face a full complement of F35s?

But with these what if's...neither the United States nor China is dumb enough to go to war with each other.  They both rely heavily on each other.