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Offline Slash27

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Re: Gun sales today...pretty amazing...
« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2012, 01:09:27 AM »
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Wanted to shoot but didn't want to pay a lot for ammo so went with 7.62X39. Looked at ak47's and they all looked alike and dated. Wanted something different and a little unique. Found the mini30 and a Sparta stock. Got a bunch of 30 and 20 round mags for it. I usually load mags the night before going to the range so I can give everything a good wipe down of excess oil and make sure everything will function the right way before driving south for a few hours so I can shoot a good distance. Keeps me from having to load repeatedly by having multi magazines and also if I have a problem with one I can use it for spare parts and still wont ruin a shooting day that took a while to drive to.
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« Reply #31 on: December 20, 2012, 01:41:34 AM »
The main problem here in my opinion goes wider than gun restriction :old:

Once these pressure groups and the powers that be have got their ideas and views installed they do not just go back to where they have come from.

These pressure group moves on to another sector of people's lives and try to install their views on that.

For example in the UK they banned fox hunting, these pressure group are now trying to ban fishing because that's cruel as well.

These groups and select powers that be wish and do instilled their benevolent views on me regardless of my own views.

I don't give a cuss about foxes or fox hunting, you can still shoot them by the way, chasing them with hounds seems a better sporting chance for the fox in my opinion.

I know one thing these self serving liberal elites will have sore eyes looking for my money when my time comes, I am going to spend it all on mucky chicks :old:
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« Reply #32 on: December 20, 2012, 02:15:22 AM »
Until you have felt what it is like to actually go through 100 rounds you just cant understand why its cool unless you just accept that it is. I have been to the gun range many times with machineguns and with assault rifles and long guns too and not one of them has ever tried to kill me. I did have a .30-06 dud round that just barely spit the bullet out of the barrel when it was fired but I dont think that qualifies.

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« Reply #33 on: December 20, 2012, 03:26:29 AM »
The OPs question is simple. Why do we need multile 30 RD mags? To answer this question you have to look at the wording of the second admedment. "A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." We as Americans have the unique right to form a army used to fight against a hypothetical tyrannical government. To become a well regulated militia, you first need to become regular with your weapon. This includes types of training that become next to impossible with lowcap mags. We have the right to own weapons of war because without them we wouldn't be the free country we are today.

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« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2012, 04:23:28 AM »
Personally, I'm not panicing. I don't believe the government is "going to come after me" and I'm not a Doomsday Prepper. I can do just fine hunting and defending myself with the guns I have. If semi-autos are outlawed it will only affect 1 pistol I own and I can replace that easily. Nobody needs a semi-automatic gun with a 30 round magazine unless they are in the military. Anyone else that thinks they do are certifiably nuts.
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« Reply #35 on: December 20, 2012, 04:27:51 AM »
The OPs question is simple. Why do we need multile 30 RD mags? To answer this question you have to look at the wording of the second admedment. "A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." We as Americans have the unique right to form a army used to fight against a hypothetical tyrannical government. To become a well regulated militia, you first need to become regular with your weapon. This includes types of training that become next to impossible with lowcap mags. We have the right to own weapons of war because without them we wouldn't be the free country we are today.

I hope that clears it up a little - SunFan

I know someone that went to the trouble of reading the militia's orders for the WOI. In doing so they read that each member had to have enough powder and ball for at least six volleys and suggested that no one be allowed more than that today. hehe
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« Reply #36 on: December 20, 2012, 04:32:03 AM »
Going to the pawn shop today and stock up . All tho I have boxes and boxes full of ammo but never know .
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« Reply #37 on: December 20, 2012, 06:07:57 AM »
The OPs question is simple. Why do we need multile 30 RD mags? To answer this question you have to look at the wording of the second admedment. "A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." We as Americans have the unique right to form a army used to fight against a hypothetical tyrannical government. To become a well regulated militia, you first need to become regular with your weapon. This includes types of training that become next to impossible with lowcap mags. We have the right to own weapons of war because without them we wouldn't be the free country we are today.

I hope that clears it up a little - SunFan

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Re: Gun sales today...pretty amazing...
« Reply #38 on: December 20, 2012, 06:23:33 AM »
Until you have felt what it is like to actually go through 100 rounds you just cant understand why its cool unless you just accept that it is. I have been to the gun range many times with machineguns and with assault rifles and long guns too and not one of them has ever tried to kill me. I did have a .30-06 dud round that just barely spit the bullet out of the barrel when it was fired but I dont think that qualifies.

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« Reply #39 on: December 20, 2012, 06:45:18 AM »
....., but just for my own wonder , why do people need multiple clips (not a couple) I mean like 6 or 7 or 10....?
 
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First off, they are called Magazines..... Not Clips!.....
Second, those in the know will buy more than one or two Magazines since they will go bad over time, wear and tear from reloads, dropping them, denting them, etc. 

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« Reply #40 on: December 20, 2012, 07:51:32 AM »
Well y'know, I'm an infantry soldier.  I've fired machineguns, mortars, heavy anti-tank weapons, pistols, most types of assault rifles, sniper rifles, grenade launchers - pretty much if you can lift it by yourself, I've pulled the trigger on it.  I'm a qualified marksman, qualified CQB, and was provincial champion as a teenager.  So I'm pretty comfortable with weapons.

I still vividly recall the first time I went down to the gun show to buy something to target shoot with.  I got a beautiful 1919 Mauser made by Carl Gustav, mint condition.  It was a true work of craftmanship, they simply don't make them like that anymore.  Every single part had the serial number and the Carl Gustav crown stamped on it, by hand, to signify that it had passed Carl Gustav standards.  I mean, the sight slider had the serial number and crown.  The little lever that releases the sight slider had the serial number and crown, the firing pin, the sling attachments, even the screws had the crown (they were too small for the serial number).  It was beautifully accurate too.  I once bet a friend I could hit a paintball at 100 metres, and won.  I loved it.  So again, I'm pretty comfortable with weapons.

And yet - I also still vividly recall looking at some of the people at that gun show, looking at the stuff they were buying, up to and including belt fed machine-guns.  (And this is Canada we're talking about.  Despite what you may have heard, gun laws here are no obstacle to owning whatever firepower happens to turn you on).  I saw a guy showing off photos of his high-tech arsenal the way most guys show off pictures of their kids.  "This thing is better than porno," he said, referring to one of the eight (yes, eight) hunting knives he had strapped to himself at the time.

Why did he want this stuff?  I dunno why, but as he was just about the weasliest, greasiest, ineffectual wannabe I've seen in my life, even before he pulled out his slide-show, so I'd guess some form of compensation for his total lack of effective masculinity was a key factor.  I'd have handed my beautiful Mauser over to be melted down in an instant if it meant this guy had to hand his stuff over too.  I would be totally unsurprised to read in the news one morning that he'd taken out twenty random innocents in his last pathetic attempt to get noticed.  Or that he'd been caught molesting little girls in the playground. Or... well, pretty much anything.  He was seriously creepy.

Of course Canada hasn't had a school-shooting incident in twenty years, so presumably he's still down in his mom's basement, masturbating over the latest issue of Soldier of Fortune and harming no-one, yet another upstanding example of the responsible gun owner.  I've met a few others like him since then, and none of them have gone postal either.  That doesn't make me comfy with the knowledge that they're out there oiling their glocks.  Not one bit.

I'm not here to weigh in on the US gun control issue on either side - it's not my nation.  I don't have a way to prevent the next school shooting.  I do know some people want weapons for the wrong reasons.


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« Reply #41 on: December 20, 2012, 08:22:36 AM »
My answer to the OP's question.

They were fun to shoot in the army, they are fun to shoot, now.

Reloading magazines at the range is about as fun as watching paint dry.  I go there to shoot, not reload magazines.

That is really all the explanation that I should have to give.
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« Reply #42 on: December 20, 2012, 11:05:05 AM »
Sweet Mini 30. That would be a nice hog rifle no doubt.

One of thes days I do want to take it a few more states south and go on a hog hunt. Just not the kind of hunt that the hog buys breakfast the next morning.  :x  :bolt:
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« Reply #43 on: December 20, 2012, 11:27:27 AM »
With all due respect to Skuzzy, sunfan’s post was far from the most political post in this thread; I see it as an honest answer to RedTop’s original line of inquiry; although RedTop was primarily asking about multiple clips, he implicitly asked, “why the AR?”  I happen to concur on sunfan’s reading of the Constitution, but I digress.  To answer, in my most apolitical fashion, RedTops specific questions…

The AR as a home defense weapon –
There are, in my opinion, better choices, but who am I to say?  I’d think a pump-action shotgun or pistol would be a better choice, but it comes down to what you’re comfortable with.  Regardless, if you keep a magazine-fed weapon of any kind for home defense, it needs to have at least one magazine filled (most proponents of “firearms for home defense” would recommend at least two) and ready for use at all times (no time to load a mag if someone’s breaking in the door).  However, keeping a magazine filled for extended periods of time will cause undue stress on the spring; this could result in a higher risk of failure to feed when your life might depend on it.  So, the idea is to rotate them periodically, unloading the one(s) not kept ready for use.  In my opinion, more is better when it comes to the magazine capacity for your home defense weapon, within reason: you can buy 100-round AR magazines, but they tend to be less reliable than the 10, 20, or even 30 round magazines.  Personally, I’d rather have multiple but very reliable 10-round magazines than a 100-round mag that’s likely to miss-feed in a crisis.

The AR for hunting –
The AR comes in both .223 and .308, with both long and short barrels, so depending on what you’re hunting, both variants are viable for hunting.  However, the main thrust of RedTop’s questions are in regards to multiple, high-capacity (i.e. +10 rounds) magazines, I’d have to say these are not optimal for hunting.  You’re rarely going to need or get more than one shot at a time.  Plus, they add excess weight (might not seem like much on the hike in, but when you’re hiking back out with 50-60 lbs of meat on your back, that extra couple pounds of mag and ammo can really dig into the shoulders).  But again, that’s the hunter’s choice (and should be).

At the range –
At the range I frequent, you’re not allowed to handle weapons or magazines during cease-fires, and I wouldn’t want to waste live-fire time on reloading.  So, having multiple magazines makes sense.  How many rounds, and at what cost?  The answer?  As many as I want, and can afford, of course.  The .223 is, next to the .22LR and 7.62x39 (in that order) is the cheapest rifle ammo out there.  I’ve fired all three.  The .22LR loses energy (and thus, accuracy) at relatively short range; the 7.62 is a bit punishing on the shoulder after a while, and your stock AK-47 is not particularly accurate.  You can shoot the .223 all day without fatigue, and most are pretty accurate at 100 yds.
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« Reply #44 on: December 20, 2012, 11:37:01 AM »
With all due respect to Skuzzy, sunfan’s post was far from the most political post in this thread; I see it as an honest answer to RedTop’s original line of inquiry; although RedTop was primarily asking about multiple clips, he implicitly asked, “why the AR?”  I happen to concur on sunfan’s reading of the Constitution, but I digress.  To answer, in my most apolitical fashion, RedTops specific questions…<snip>

Sigh.  It was an example.  Honest or not, it was against the forum posting rules.  The rules do not include, "It is okay to violate the rules if you are honest" clause.  You also violated rule #5.

It is not "my line".  It is the forum posting rules one should be concerned with.
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