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Offline Shane

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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #90 on: January 08, 2013, 07:31:17 PM »

I'm sure I'm forgetting many, but these fellas weren't/aren't one trick ponies, they were ACM studs!  The likes of which Midtwit wouldn't be able to lift their jockstraps.... cept for ManeTMP since she doesn't wear a jockstrap! :devil


yeah, you did tool...  :neener:  who spent a lot of time getting you up to par racking the pony around before passing you off to the spit and hog weenies in the BKs and 109 weenies in the Muppets?   :noid

I'd say you and wldthing were the two I've spent the most time with... a lot of others, sure. It was nice to see and assist in the progression and bump up to the higher levels of fighting.

I don't know how a levi/bruv matchup would end, but I'd be putting my money on levi without hesitation.

For Midway:

And just to put an end to this... no one can claim any sort of pwnage unless it's in the DA, same plane(s) - that's when you remove the variable of the machine and environment and it comes down to the person behind the stick (well, discounting technical factors like pc, connex, etc, lol, I'm kidding, somewhat.) There are other levels of pwnage, mixed planes, strength vs strength, etc, but again it's has to be 1 v 1 in the DA, even if no alt cap agreed on etc..  the MA is just too random to proclaim any sort of pwnage that has any relevant meaning.

If you take a look at the perceived top dogfighters, you'll find that many of them have experience in a variety of rides - look at the Dueling Ladder for example.

You also have the perceived top "killers" who if they aren't considered a dogfighter, generally specialize in one or two planes. Ack-Ack for example... he's a killer and tough and knows what he's doing, but he's not really considered a dogfighter per se... follow?

You refuse to be a dogfighter. And you fail at being a killer. You're stuck Midway.
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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #91 on: January 08, 2013, 08:02:17 PM »
Yup, I forgot one... 

...and Shane, who I am still a big fan of... when I started, the call would go out on country that Shane was in the area in his la7 and many of us would go out to find him... upon arriving, it was not uncommon to find him stall fighting some of what was left of the first 6 or so fellas that went after him before we showed up... then, when he finally went down, the much anticipated comment on ch200.... you slobberdonkeys arent bad 8 vs 1!   It wasn't slobberdonkeys though, what the hell was it you used to say?


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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #92 on: January 08, 2013, 08:14:02 PM »
Funny how the thread has gone from a discussion about a plane to one of ego vs ego. Anyone who actually cares about that kind of thing should really step away form keyboard and get some sun.

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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #93 on: January 08, 2013, 08:18:07 PM »
My my my...and youre all forgetting one old timer that still rears his head from time to time....that with a week or so of up-time (cuz I've fought him and most of you) could handle anyone in the game....






Bighorn.  Absolutely amazing.  Able to play with his food before he filets it, prepares it, decides on the table presentation, sets out the dinnerware and then kills it.

My understanding from speaking to these guys directly is that the older gents were all about killing quickly, efficiently and smartly so that the next con was actually in a position to die before they were even on the menu.  Part of this process, I've discovered, is a certain patience with the a/c while managing their aggression...and a philosophy that forces them to kill very, very quickly.  I don't see that in anyone flying right now except one:

Quendi.  Haven't seen him in while but I can say this...no one has ever killed me that quick in Spits.  I wonder who that really was...lol
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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #94 on: January 08, 2013, 08:23:29 PM »
Bighorn is bovidae on Marks list
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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #95 on: January 08, 2013, 08:23:49 PM »
yeah, you did tool...  :neener:  who spent a lot of time getting you up to par racking the pony around before passing you off to the spit and hog weenies in the BKs and 109 weenies in the Muppets?   :noid

I'd say you and wldthing were the two I've spent the most time with... a lot of others, sure. It was nice to see and assist in the progression and bump up to the higher levels of fighting.

I don't know how a levi/bruv matchup would end, but I'd be putting my money on levi without hesitation.

For Midway:

And just to put an end to this... no one can claim any sort of pwnage unless it's in the DA, same plane(s) - that's when you remove the variable of the machine and environment and it comes down to the person behind the stick (well, discounting technical factors like pc, connex, etc, lol, I'm kidding, somewhat.) There are other levels of pwnage, mixed planes, strength vs strength, etc, but again it's has to be 1 v 1 in the DA, even if no alt cap agreed on etc..  the MA is just too random to proclaim any sort of pwnage that has any relevant meaning.

If you take a look at the perceived top dogfighters, you'll find that many of them have experience in a variety of rides - look at the Dueling Ladder for example.

You also have the perceived top "killers" who if they aren't considered a dogfighter, generally specialize in one or two planes. Ack-Ack for example... he's a killer and tough and knows what he's doing, but he's not really considered a dogfighter per se... follow?

You refuse to be a dogfighter. And you fail at being a killer. You're stuck Midway.


Bruv pwns in the MA often and with a degree of severity and awesomeness few can match. :rock

Shane, you Sir, are wrong when you say pwnage can only be claimed in the DA.  In the MA, I have pwned you and Bruv has pwned me, both with substantial frequency and certainty.  Bruv having pwned me 100% of the time in 1v1s.  You, however, not as much, as you well know. :)

Most pilots know when they are being pwned or laying said pwnage upon an enemy in the MA.  I certainly do, but you have difficulty accepting it and want to deny/smoke screen it with definitions.  :ahand

Apparently we must also agree to disagree on the ability to claim pwnage in the MA. :old:
But I know I'm right, as do others, with respect to the above. :old:
One day, you'll agree when you open your mind. :old:

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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #96 on: January 08, 2013, 08:24:14 PM »
Bighorn is bovidae on Marks list

Ahhh....then I stand corrected.
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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #97 on: January 08, 2013, 08:26:00 PM »
My my my...and youre all forgetting one old timer that still rears his head from time to time....that with a week or so of up-time (cuz I've fought him and most of you) could handle anyone in the game....






Bighorn.  Absolutely amazing.  Able to play with his food before he filets it, prepares it, decides on the table presentation, sets out the dinnerware and then kills it.

My understanding from speaking to these guys directly is that the older gents were all about killing quickly, efficiently and smartly so that the next con was actually in a position to die before they were even on the menu.  Part of this process, I've discovered, is a certain patience with the a/c while managing their aggression...and a philosophy that forces them to kill very, very quickly.  I don't see that in anyone flying right now except one:

Quendi.  Haven't seen him in while but I can say this...no one has ever killed me that quick in Spits.  I wonder who that really was...lol


I believe Quendi was SunsFan.


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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #98 on: January 08, 2013, 08:26:42 PM »
I believe Quendi was SunsFan.

Uh, no.  I fought Suns in the dueling bracket and chose Spit IX's.  He lost.
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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #99 on: January 08, 2013, 08:29:06 PM »
Yup, I forgot one... 

...and Shane, who I am still a big fan of... when I started, the call would go out on country that Shane was in the area in his la7 and many of us would go out to find him... upon arriving, it was not uncommon to find him stall fighting some of what was left of the first 6 or so fellas that went after him before we showed up... then, when he finally went down, the much anticipated comment on ch200.... you slobberdonkeys arent bad 8 vs 1!   It wasn't slobberdonkeys though, what the hell was it you used to say?


I'll have to take your word for it since I wasn't there and what I did see of him for many tours recently... well... 35%+ in simple 1v1s.... nuff said. :)


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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #100 on: January 08, 2013, 08:29:13 PM »
Uh, no.  I fought Suns in the dueling bracket and chose Spit IX's.  He lost.

Quendian. I called him Sunsfan to piss him off since he's just another muppet hating shade. I love that it stuck.  :lol
He was decent but no where near Bighorn.
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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #101 on: January 08, 2013, 08:33:11 PM »
Quendian. I called him Sunsfan to piss him off since he's just another muppet hating shade. I love that it stuck.  :lol
He was decent but no where near Bighorn.

Two different names Scotch...one was Quendi and the other was Quendian.  There was much speculation that it was Levi given his avatar (if you look up Quendi) and the tempo of the fights he and I had were twice the speed at which I'd ever fought and was unbelievably aggressive in the a/c.  Haven't fought someone like him before and not one close since.  I bugged Grizz for a month to find out who the guy was, lmao!
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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #102 on: January 08, 2013, 08:36:47 PM »
 :headscratch:Its my understanding that Quendi was an old BK that hasn't flown in years. Quendian is the one in KOTH etc. Until October I had only been home for about 5 weeks this year, so chances are good that I missed it and am wrong.
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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #103 on: January 08, 2013, 08:41:20 PM »
:headscratch: Its my understanding that Quendi was an old BK that hasn't flown in years. Quendian is the one in KOTH etc. Until October I had only been home for about 5 weeks this year, so chances are good that I missed it and am wrong.

Would the real Quendi please stand up. :rock


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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #104 on: January 08, 2013, 08:41:33 PM »
Funny how the thread has gone from a discussion about a plane to one of ego vs ego. Anyone who actually cares about that kind of thing should really step away form keyboard and get some sun.

Score,stats,reputation,persona,ego etc only person who cares about any of it is you.



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