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Re: He111 is HERE!!!!!!!!
« Reply #285 on: April 13, 2013, 11:02:23 AM »
Updated and slightly corrected version of the "BPF" list (as explained in my earlier post above)

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Mossie at OBJ 20 now makes it a perked perk-farmer now. But it's high speed and quick climb should ensure perks are rarely lost on quick town milking missions...

G4M1 and Ki-67 Are both 40 OBJ?  That doesn't seem right.  G4Ms are sitting ducks at any altitude, while 67s can easily run you out of gas with their speed. 


edit: OBJ is not ENY.  Doh!
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Re: He111 is HERE!!!!!!!!
« Reply #286 on: April 13, 2013, 11:03:25 AM »
If we only had a working, populated EW arena. The 32x50kg is a great loadout for City attacks, but it doesn't makes much sense to do that if you are the only player on your country...  :old:

 I always liked EW but you are correct no one is ever there. I liked it because it linited the plane types where the ME109F-4 was the most non perked uber plane there. Now with the HE-111 it would be even better in EW. HTC did a great job on the HE-111 thanks guys.

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Re: He111 is HERE!!!!!!!!
« Reply #287 on: April 13, 2013, 11:09:01 AM »
G4M1 and Ki-67 Are both 40 OBJ?  That doesn't seem right.  G4Ms are sitting ducks at any altitude, while 67s can easily run you out of gas with their speed. 
OBJ is based on bombload whereas the speed and guns of the Ki-67 should affect its ENY.
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« Reply #288 on: April 13, 2013, 11:14:55 AM »
OBJ is based on bombload


But not exclusively, else the Arado would have a higher OBJ than it has.

And in my opinion OBJ should be modified by other factors than just plain bombload, a sdifferent planes have also different chances to get to their target and earn their bomber perks in the first place.
B-26 and He 111 both carry about the same load, but the B-26 has much better chances to fight it's way to the target than the He 111.
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Re: He111 is HERE!!!!!!!!
« Reply #289 on: April 13, 2013, 11:20:03 AM »
Is there any reason not to take the (2) 20mm gun package? 

What's better for the Lanc, 50s or the 303s in the tail?
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« Reply #290 on: April 13, 2013, 11:32:23 AM »
preference.....more ammo with the 303's or the firepower of .50 cal.
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« Reply #291 on: April 13, 2013, 11:43:29 AM »
One .50 has about the hitting power of three .303s, and holds its energy much better.  That said, the .303s allow you to fire without waiting for a good shot because of the silly amount of ammo they have.  2500 rounds per gun is more than any other aircraft gun has in the game.
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« Reply #292 on: April 13, 2013, 11:49:49 AM »
Is there any reason not to take the (2) 20mm gun package? 


No.
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« Reply #293 on: April 13, 2013, 03:16:59 PM »

No.

Maybe.  Weight.  If a person wants to make the He111 as light as possible by taking the least amount of weight as possible, there is a lighter gun package and it *does* add up in the climb rate. If the goal is to get to 10k ASAP and the chance of interception is minimal and maybe there is even escort, then I'd very much consider taking the lightest gun package.  YMMV.   :)
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« Reply #294 on: April 13, 2013, 03:39:13 PM »
Maybe.  Weight.  If a person wants to make the He111 as light as possible by taking the least amount of weight as possible, there is a lighter gun package and it *does* add up in the climb rate. If the goal is to get to 10k ASAP and the chance of interception is minimal and maybe there is even escort, then I'd very much consider taking the lightest gun package.  YMMV.   :)


The difference is negligible. The gain is so small and the climb rate is so low to begin with that it gives no tactical advantage at all.

For example the difference in time to get to 10k in the 8x250kg / 50 % fuel loadout is a whopping 5 seconds between the lightest and the heaviest gun loadout. 11:35 to 11:40, both times from SL to 10k, watch starting at the moment the plane begins to roll.


Even between the different fuel loadouts the differences are (compared to some other bombers) relatively small:

Altitude after 20 minutes of climb:
8x250kg, 50% - 14.8k
8x250kg, 100% - 12.5k
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« Reply #295 on: April 13, 2013, 05:39:19 PM »
Just tried the He 111 on the strats in EW, City went down from 100% to 81%  :)

As I said, it would be a great strats bomber there if there only was any significant gampleay in that arena  :old:
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« Reply #296 on: April 13, 2013, 05:42:17 PM »
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« Reply #297 on: April 14, 2013, 08:58:44 PM »
Haven't seen many HE111's around vs the usual numbers of Lanc,B17s and B24's over past 24 hours, don't tell me the LW buff so many having be asking for, for years didn't last in the MA past the first weekend. Just to be retired as another hangar queen and once a month at most FSO special. 


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« Reply #298 on: April 15, 2013, 05:57:21 AM »
Haven't seen many HE111's around vs the usual numbers of Lanc,B17s and B24's over past 24 hours, don't tell me the LW buff so many having be asking for, for years didn't last in the MA past the first weekend. Just to be retired as another hangar queen and once a month at most FSO special. 


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Re: He111 is HERE!!!!!!!!
« Reply #299 on: April 15, 2013, 08:27:47 AM »
Haven't seen many HE111's around vs the usual numbers of Lanc,B17s and B24's over past 24 hours, don't tell me the LW buff so many having be asking for, for years didn't last in the MA past the first weekend. Just to be retired as another hangar queen and once a month at most FSO special. 


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I doubt anybody thought it would be a mainstay in the LWMA.  It'll get used a bit, but comparing it to the B-17G, B-24J and Lancaster Mk III is absurd.  Those are all vastly superior aircraft in just about every way.
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