Future Soviet planesets...

[Reaper90]

k4 will eat it for breakfast and throw it up to make room for lunch.

which one?  7 or 5? I kill quite a few 109s in both 5 and 7, and will take a 7 up against anyone. There are some K4 sticks that will get my 7, but they're a rare breed.

you wanna go? 

[Rob52240]

depends on the pilot  same goes for the K4 now that I'm done being argumentative.

I'm still on hiatus so I expect to lose the next 200 or so dogfights when I get back into the game.  I'll have a fresh name and gladly challenge you to some type of hording contest.   

[Warspawn]

Would love to see the King Cobra.  P-63...what a beautiful ride.





One of Pokryshkin's pilots reports in his memoirs published in the 1990s that the entire 4th GvIAP was secretly converted to P-63s in 1944. One account states they were in action at Königsberg, in Poland and in the final assault on Berlin. There are German reports of P-63s shot down by both fighters and flak.  In general, official Soviet histories played down the role of Lend-Lease supplied aircraft in favor of local designs, but it is known that the P-63 was a successful fighter aircraft in Soviet service.

Soviet P-63s achieved their first (official) air victory on 15 August 1945, when Lejtenant I. F. Miroshnichenko from 17th IAP/190 IAD, shot down a Nakajima Ki-43 Hayabusa Army fighter off the coast of North Korea.

[Dragon Tamer]

Would love to see the King Cobra.  P-63...what a beautiful ride.

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One of Pokryshkin's pilots reports in his memoirs published in the 1990s that the entire 4th GvIAP was secretly converted to P-63s in 1944. One account states they were in action at Königsberg, in Poland and in the final assault on Berlin. There are German reports of P-63s shot down by both fighters and flak.  In general, official Soviet histories played down the role of Lend-Lease supplied aircraft in favor of local designs, but it is known that the P-63 was a successful fighter aircraft in Soviet service.

Soviet P-63s achieved their first (official) air victory on 15 August 1945, when Lejtenant I. F. Miroshnichenko from 17th IAP/190 IAD, shot down a Nakajima Ki-43 Hayabusa Army fighter off the coast of North Korea.

I like it, it's a good looking bird. And since we are getting the Ki-43, it only seems fair that we should get to recreate the first kill of the P-63. 

[Gixer]

No thanks, we need real soviet planes, not some US toy with a red star on it.



<S>...-Gixer

[icepac]

I hear the same report qualifying the P63 and sometimes it shows a KI27 as the victim and sometimes it states KI43.

I like the P400 loadouts.

There are other planes that have a ton more evidence they flew combat missions in WWII even though they were made in much smaller quantities.

This includes super rare planes like the BF109T  (shot down first B17 of the war and one got shot down by bud anderson).

I was just using that plane as an example of one that had bigger impact than a plane in which there really is no concrete evidence of having flow combat sorties.

[Tilt]

The La5FN is a completely different airplane, and challenging compared to the La7... worthy of its eny. Fly it sometime.

Strange..... I find them very similar. The 5FN scrubs e faster and takes ( a little ) longer to regain it ( than the 7). In all other respects they could be the same plane.

[Reaper90]

Strange..... I find them very similar. The 5FN scrubs e faster and takes ( a little ) longer to regain it ( than the 7). In all other respects they could be the same plane.

I say "completely different plane" because the La7 was a complete redesign... visually similar to the La5, and with the same engine, but a whole new airframe. The La5 was basically a LaGG-3 with radial grafted onto it.

The La5 to me just feels different... maybe it's psychological, I don't know. But I fly it a few days than get into the La7 and the difference is staggering, the speed especially.

[Tilt]

I say "completely different plane" because the La7 was a complete redesign... visually similar to the La5, and with the same engine, but a whole new airframe. The La5 was basically a LaGG-3 with radial grafted onto it.

The La5 to me just feels different... maybe it's psychological, I don't know. But I fly it a few days than get into the La7 and the difference is staggering, the speed especially.

Actually the air frame of AH's La5FN is virtually identical to the La7. Almost certainly the performance figures used are for the 3 tank metal spared La5FN of late 43 thru 44. (La5FN stopped production in Oct 44..they had to use up spare wings which did not have the air intakes)

It was the metal spared wing that was used for the La7 (lighter than the wooden spar used by early La5FN's and most of the La5F's) plus streamlining the air intake from the wing roots, re positioning and stream lining the oil cooler  under and behind the centre tank, stream lining the engine cowlings and exhaust louvres, stream lining the wheel covers, plus a lot of quality control stuff on the panel fits around the engine. The La7 got a 3m prop and slightly longer landing gear...the spinner was slightly modified vis the removal of the hucks dog starter coupling. Some attention was paid to the most efficient use of glue in construction  (strength and weight saving) but this was underway with the La5FN also.

Effectively the two planes are historically very similar except the La5FN has more DRAG than the La7.