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I tell you Ki-84otsu(equip Ho5 20mm x4 type) some information.

Ki-84otsu was produced.
But , Exactly number of produced was not found now.
but, we can estimate by Ki84kou's serial No.
Ki84-otsu was build in oota factory of Nakajima hikouki.
and serial No 101-2759 of Ki84kou were build in same place,too.
but last serial No of ki-84kou was 2676.
2759-2676 is 83.
83 is product No of ki84otsu.

and ,some pictures of ki84otsu is found,now.
we can know Ki84otsu was supplied to front line by this picture.
104sq in Manchuria,fought against USSR in last of war,used ki84-otsu.

and there was picture of Ki84otsu(serial No 3060,first Ki84otsu is 3001) captured by USAAF.

Ki84hei,equip Ho-155 30mm x2 and Ho-5 20mm x2, was build only 2.
These were prototype.

Ok... I have GOT to fly one of these OTSU's with the 4 X 20mm....Hi 2Cmex!!!!

[Megalodon]

150   P-51 made 4 x20mm for  Britain, we kept 55 cause they were so cool and both the British and the American issues were used till the end of the war!  Britain was a small player right?

British ordered 150 aircraft, NA-91/P-51, 41-37320-37469, FD418-FD567.

93 aircraft where shipped to England as Mustang IA
FD438/41-37340 - FD449/41-37351
FD465/41-37367
FD470/41-37372-FD509/41-37411
FD528/41-37430-FD567/41-37469

55 retained by USAAC for Tactical recon variant P-51-1NA, Photo recon later as F-6A.

I'm sure it would be perked.

150>88,

[Pkun]

and I think ,
it's a OK,no limit version of Ki84 ,get max speed 684km/h, release to AH.

because Real pilot couldn't use second stage of Supercharger on Ta152
,but its possible to AH version of Ta152.

and Ki84Otsu was built more than Ta152.

and, DB605L, used by Bf109K, was such engine with supercharger run on front line?

it's not unfair.
(and it's a famous , pilot of F4U-1C couldn't use Hispano over 10000ft,but its' a no problem on AH)

But, I'm enough current version of ki84 on AH.
because I think, current version of ki84 on AH is very real, it's a closely ki84 in front line .

Sorry, I missed.
I want to say,
"it's unfair."
But, I'm enough current version of ki84 on AH.

My English is very poor...orz

Ki84 dive?
AH's version is real.

IJA 50sq on Burma reported.
"I tried diving bomb to British Destroyer on Kolkata.
But Ki84's nose uped.
I counld continue diving by pushing center stick Fully."

Yes, Ki84 could dive, but continue of dive was difficult, like a AH version.

[Pkun]

150   P-51 made 4 x20mm for  Britain, we kept 55 cause they were so cool and both the British and the American issues were used till the end of the war!  Britain was a small player right?

British ordered 150 aircraft, NA-91/P-51, 41-37320-37469, FD418-FD567.

93 aircraft where shipped to England as Mustang IA
FD438/41-37340 - FD449/41-37351
FD465/41-37367
FD470/41-37372-FD509/41-37411
FD528/41-37430-FD567/41-37469

55 retained by USAAC for Tactical recon variant P-51-1NA, Photo recon later as F-6A.

I'm sure it would be perked.

150>88,

Mustang IA, equiped Allison V-1710-81, MaxSpeed 624km/h,,,,
Do you want to use such Mustang on MA?
May be ,it's bad accelleration, middle speed, bad climb, and bad turn.

and in fact,
P-51A(12.7mmx6) joined Battle in Burma.
In first engage to IJA 64Sq equiped Ki-43II,P-51As were losed...

and P-51A was similer P-40.
Mustang IA is like a P-40 equiped Hispanos.

but, I don' hate P-51A, if P-51A join to MA, May be I want to try.

[Karnak]

Sorry, I missed.
I want to say,
"it's unfair."
But, I'm enough current version of ki84 on AH.

My English is very poor...orz

Ki84 dive?
AH's version is real.

IJA 50sq on Burma reported.
"I tried diving bomb to British Destroyer on Kolkata.
But Ki84's nose uped.
I counld continue diving by pushing center stick Fully."

Yes, Ki84 could dive, but continue of dive was difficult, like a AH version.

I don't doubt that the Ki-84 required stick force to keep the nose down in a dive.  What I am skeptical of is that it shed control surfaces at about 480 to 500mph.

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I don't doubt that the Ki-84 required stick force to keep the nose down in a dive.  What I am skeptical of is that it shed control surfaces at about 480 to 500mph.

+1

We can send the designs to Wmaker.  He and his brethren will redesign it like the F-18 Super Brewster

[Pkun]

I don't doubt that the Ki-84 required stick force to keep the nose down in a dive.  What I am skeptical of is that it shed control surfaces at about 480 to 500mph.

Yasushi Koyama ,designed Ki27,Ki43,Ki44,Ki84, wrote,
"We(especially IJA) were afraid crashed on air.I gave heavy control to Ki84.
and Ki84 is up nose in high speed"

and Ki84 could keep weigh light by these.
because frameworkｓ of the body and other was kept weigh light.

may be you know, Ki84's propeller was shorter than other 2000HP class airplanes.
this reason is same it.

Yasushi Koyama wished just keeping weigh light, I think.

[Karnak]

pkun,

Do you know of any accounts of the Ki-84 breaking up in the air due to maneuvering?

[Megalodon]

Mustang IA, equiped Allison V-1710-81, MaxSpeed 624km/h,,,,
Do you want to use such Mustang on MA?
May be ,it's bad accelleration, middle speed, bad climb, and bad turn.

but, I don' hate P-51A, if P-51A join to MA, May be I want to try.

Sounds perfect

Well.... their were 4 different versions of the early P-51

1st- NA-73/83 620... 8 303's or 4x50cal and 4x303 "MKI"
2nd- NA-91 150 .... 95 "MKIA"<Brit>  55 <USAAF> "P-51-1" 4x 20mm
3rd- NA-97 500 "A36"
4th- NA-99 310 "P-51A" "MKII"

I would like to try too  

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pkun,

Do you know of any accounts of the Ki-84 breaking up in the air due to maneuvering?

the KI stays together up till 505 or so......

it has no nose climb in a dive the way the LA does, and it seems to me, that is what the pilot describes, I would rather have it the way he describes.

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the KI stays together up till 505 or so......

it has no nose climb in a dive the way the LA does, and it seems to me, that is what the pilot describes, I would rather have it the way he describes.

Ditto...no nose up at all right now

[Babalonian]

I think some earlier P-51s would really help the D varient shine and help for some players to validate its current low ENY in the game.

[Karnak]

I think some earlier P-51s would really help the D varient shine and help for some players to validate its current low ENY in the game.

I don't think anything is needed to validate the P-51D's ENY 5 rating beyond the P-51D in AH.

A P-51A would be a nice addition though.

[Megalodon]

I would give the 51D a 2 eny!

To the OP's ? the P-51-1 <MkIA> fits the bill

P-51A is pretty much the same as the B different engine same 4x50's. The MkI was stickly British < we kept 2 to test>  8x303.

Of the 4 early 51's I would like to see these 2

1. P-51 ...4x20mm <perked>
2. A-36 ...dive brakes 2 x 500lbs and 6 x50's

The P-51 4x20mm Allison, was low numbers and would be perked and was for a small country.

OnTopic,

[Karnak]

P-51A is pretty much the same as the B different engine same 4x50's.

Don't think you can call it "pretty much the same" when the engine isn't even in the same family.  Sure, the armament and views would be similar, though no Malcolm Hood, but the performance would be very different.  Much more different than between the P-51B and P-51D.