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Offline ghi

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Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2013, 07:22:32 PM »
so ghi complained an hour after a rook bomber mission launched... got 163s enabled... he upped twice and landed twice with three kills each time off the same mission and his horde killed all escorts and all bombers before they got anywhere near the bish strat and he thinks this is not a problem for balance issues.

well what do you expect the same guy likes to pick off 3-4 defenders when he has 30 green guys covering him in his horde missiuns.
look at the time i posted this and compare with rook mission; Sorry to cause this bs on BB!  I don't really care, go bomb strats in safe mode, improve your score.
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Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2013, 09:18:49 PM »
why is the strat complex resuppliable now anyway? it didnt use to be.

if bomber shave to face 163s they shouldnt have to watch an army of goons resupply the strats before they can get out of the sector.

Why can fuel only be taken down to 75% and not 25% like before......cuz people cry just like the get rid of the 163 whineeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeee :bhead
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Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #32 on: June 06, 2013, 10:14:17 PM »
Why can fuel only be taken down to 75% and not 25% like before......cuz people cry just like the get rid of the 163 whineeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeee :bhead
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Offline 1Cane

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Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2013, 10:31:42 AM »
I would like the Me163 to be a true rocket airplane with no starting and stopping of engines.
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Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #34 on: June 07, 2013, 10:41:14 AM »
I would like the Me163 to be a true rocket airplane with no starting and stopping of engines.
The real Me163 could start and stop its engine.  It also had multiple throttle settings.  Your request would make the model inaccurate.


Maybe it would be better if it also had the fuel burn multiplier set to 2 like all the other aircraft.  Its fuel consumption rate is hard coded.
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Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #35 on: June 07, 2013, 10:49:45 AM »
Maybe it would be better if it also had the fuel burn multiplier set to 2 like all the other aircraft.  Its fuel consumption rate is hard coded.

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Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2013, 10:54:21 AM »
Is this true?............. sounds like a viable wish to me.............
Yeah.  I found that out when I wanted to fly one for a long time offline just to see what it could do with more burn time and found that its fuel endurance didn't change no matter what I set the fuel burn multiplier to.
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Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #37 on: June 07, 2013, 02:44:03 PM »
 Sorry didn't know they could restart moters.
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Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2013, 11:23:56 AM »
I would like the Me163 to be a true rocket airplane with no starting and stopping of engines.
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The real me163 cod shut down its engine and re-ignite it in flight.  However, you had to wait 2 minutes before re-ignighting the engine or the plane would explode!  I say model that into the game :)

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Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #39 on: June 10, 2013, 02:56:23 AM »
Perhaps an easy fix would be to only enable the 163s when territory is pushed back a certain amount.

I see Fester's point. I've looked at the map plenty of times to see strat runners. Bombers take a long time to hit their target and the direction gives you plenty of time to up, get alt and intercept IF you have the patience to do it.
163s enabled on all the maps at all times are just the lazy mans fix and IMO, Bombers stand no chance with all the time it takes and also taking the wind effect does shy bomber pilots away from hitting strats
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Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #40 on: June 10, 2013, 10:42:08 AM »
I know what you mean.  You fly 90 mins + to get to target, if you manage to dodge the 163s and other cons and manage to hit your target and survive to fly back a minimum of 30+ more mins to land (if you make it).  To have your work undone in less than say.. 15-20 mins (if there are only 2-5 resupplying).


My suggestions on how HTC could fix this would be...

Limiting how many C47s/M3s (some strats have V-bases next to them), can up from that base within a given period of time.

Time could be 10 minutes, or 15-20 minutes.  How many planes could up could be 3-5 or 8-10 I don't know  :headscratch:   

So if 5 people took off with c47s (or m3s), then no more cargo-type vehicles/planes could 'take-off' for the next 10-20 mins.  (Or until those who took off landed/bailed, then the que would open for others to participate).  That way we don't get "Hordes" of resuppliers.

But I think this needs to be looked at, because it isn't fair to the bomber pilots who are willing to sacrifice their time ( and some their perks) to cripple the enemies stronghold, to only have it resupplied in a short amount of time.


It would benefit the enemy bombers so that they can benefit from their hard work, and give their country more time to take advantage of this opportunity.

Also, it would help the defending country no less, they just wouldn't be able to get their strats resupplied as quickly, but it wouldn't cripple them either.


Just my opinion.

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Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #41 on: June 10, 2013, 11:43:37 PM »
Being able to ressupply HQ and strat is lame and dumb. The whole point of bombing strat is to damage sources of supply, yet the sources of supply can be resupplied? :headscratch:

Disabling me163s is lame. The reason there are so many me163s is because strat raids are too rare and infrequent to drain the perk point fund.

Now that resupplying bases works, not being able to pork fuel is lame. Honestly if fuel can be lowered no less than 75% it's not a strat factor anymore, fuel strat has been removed from the game.

Making concessions to appease whiners is lame. If players are whining because they can't do this or that because their fields or strat is porked, that means the strat system is working.
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Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #42 on: June 11, 2013, 12:01:50 AM »
This thread is literally a whine inside of another whine inside of another whine.  :rolleyes:

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Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #43 on: June 11, 2013, 03:00:04 AM »
what is a "Montis" map? sorry for the silly question to you vets of the LW :salute
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Re: why the me163s are not enabled in MA, Montis map?
« Reply #44 on: June 11, 2013, 03:48:42 AM »
what is a "Montis" map? sorry for the silly question to you vets of the LW :salute


It's the map with the name "Montis":

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